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  • Soros says Brexit aftermath will be worse than time he broke the Bank of England

    From marketwatch.com

    George Soros “broke the Bank of England” in 1992 with his famous bet against the British pound. Now, he’s warning that a U.K. vote this week to leave the European Union would do far more damage to the currency—and the British economy—than the aftermath of his bet “Black Wednesday” ever did. In a guest column for Britain’s Guardian newspaper published Tuesday, Soros notes that he was praised for triggering the 1992 devaluation of the British pound GBPUSD, -0.1837% that followed the currency’s ejection from the European exchange-rate mechanism. That’s because the move gave a lift to a U.K. economy ... (full story)

I wonder if soros is in fact saying what he really thinks will happen...
Absolutely. Soros only pocket 1 billion. But Brexit will loss 70% company building in Britain because the key factor because of EU access, 50% exports to EU, where will all this go? Maybe the good thing is 2 million leaving UK, but 1 million British workers that work in EU back to Britain. Who will employ them without employer or export demand needed? Frankfurt, Paris or even Athens no harm for those company that decide to leave Britain if they exit. Then where Britain export to after Brexit? Probably back to New Zealand time when they import 60% from Britain but not anymore now.

Don't always think they are the 5th largest economy will never collapse. Must think what are the factor could bring them 5th largest?

Brexit? Voting leave? Democracy? Independence? Doing better without EU? You have the price to pay for rebuilding all this.
Thatcher had done most of the hard work (structural and macroeconomic UK reforms) before Soros came along. She 'left' in 1990 and so the 1992 debacle was not on her watch. And for the record she was against the ERM and the single currency idea. Soros put his own (and many other peoples') money to risk versus the Bank of England and the British Government. He recognised it was yet another case of the old school tie versus common sense. In the financial capital of the world the senior cabinet were not even wired into the markets but heard the news on the radio. Some things (hopefully) have changed for the better. Brexit not going ahead now. But the European Union is not united in any case with or without UK.
With all that taken into account it doesn't make any sense to go through with it, however, Im going to take a guess here and say that if the average brit is not well informed and they may go ahead with it. Regardless of the outcome, fortunes will be made and fortunes will be lost.
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Traders should watch events very closely if you are in the Euro.The German Court decision is coming up,and watch the amount of bond buying,she'll hit a trillion.
http://news.forexlive.com/CentralBanks/
The polls are already swinging back towards the "remain" camp after Jo Cox's murder, Brexit is not going to happen, not a chance.
"Where you want to be is always in control, never wishing, always trading.
For those who have no vested interest in the UK, you see it as a purely economic decision. For those of us who have a vested interest, the electorate, we see it as an opportunity to reclaim our democracy from the EU
there will be no Brexit
All posts are my personal opinion
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and when you reclaim your democracy, you boot out all the politicians that you voted in before, and round and the mulberry bush we go. bring back Tony Blair.
Quoting Rtm
there will be no Brexit
You may be right but I hope not. Whatever way the vote goes, the UK electorates relationship with the EU has changed forever. I also believe that the broader electorate within Europe has had its eyes opened to the true EU
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I doubt what've Soros said.
Quoting Devauxt
For those who have no vested interest in the UK, you see it as a purely economic decision. For those of us who have a vested interest, the electorate, we see it as an opportunity to reclaim our democracy from the EU
Sorry to say that, but if everyone think as you, there will be non stop war in future. What it will become if a country without economic to boost development and incomes?

IMO, making decision base on political war and anger are the most silly one. The best decision is to find a way that can benefit everyone.
There will be no non-stop warfare if Britain leaves the EU. That's just fear-mongering. Switzerland isn't in the EU, and I don't see them at war with anyone. So, who's going to attack Britain if it leaves the EU? Belgium? Lichtenstein? Give me a break!
Quoting Devauxt
For those who have no vested interest in the UK, you see it as a purely economic decision. For those of us who have a vested interest, the electorate, we see it as an opportunity to reclaim our democracy from the EU
Sorros? This guy is an economic terrorist not to mention the Proxy leader of the globalist agenda! If he is making public statements about the dangers of BREXIT, all the more reason that BREXIT is the right decision!
Quoting gravitist
There will be no non-stop warfare if Britain leaves the EU. That's just fear-mongering. Switzerland isn't in the EU, and I don't see them at war with anyone. So, who's going to attack Britain if it leaves the EU? Belgium? Lichtenstein? Give me a break!
It isn't fear-mongering. If this is fear-mongering, why all those foreign investor suspend their investment while waiting referendum? As my earlier post, Brits can easily leave EU but of course they have a price to pay to rebuild everything. It is true Suisse isn't in EU, but they build up without EU. What you can promote Britain without EU club benefits? What reason to support leaving EU? Just because of controlling their own border benefit? That's suck. Using the whole country economic to buy own borders? Don't you think this is silly decision?
Quoting ChinaTraderz
It isn't fear-mongering. If this is fear-mongering, why all those foreign investor suspend their investment while waiting referendum? As my earlier post, Brits can easily leave EU but of course they have a price to pay to rebuild everything. It is true Suisse isn't in EU, but they build up without EU. What you can promote Britain without EU club benefits? What reason to support leaving EU? Just because of controlling their own border benefit? That's suck. Using the whole country economic to buy own borders? Don't you think this is silly decision?...
You seem clueless with regards to the reasons behind the Brexit movment. Please take time to read some of the threads and posts regarding the subject and them come back in and have a sensible discussion.
Quoting Devauxt
You seem clueless with regards to the reasons behind the Brexit movment. Please take time to read some of the threads and posts regarding the subject and them come back in and have a sensible discussion.
Yeah, I am clueless if you think so. But I know other so called sensible reasons to leave is even more funnier to discuss, at least for a clueless like me. It is more time wasting. At least I know when leaving, they will lost almost a million job by 2030. And what I can see is they doesn't understand the word "Give and Take".

"Risk vs Rewards". Basic in trading and this can clearly see on Brexit whether worth for an exit.
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as usual 2 sides to every story and both sides will exaggerate. Democracy vs economics is what it boils down to , free market vs control. The eu controls massively , Very large empires and coporations always collapse because they loose control. The eec was agreast idea , the eu is apolitical ideal that wont work. Too many different cultures one currency one central bank rate for all those different countries , Its ajoke
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Yeah, I am clueless if you think so. But I know other so called sensible reasons to leave is even more funnier to discuss, at least for a clueless like me. It is more time wasting. At least I know when leaving, they will lost almost a million job by 2030. And what I can see is they doesn't understand the word "Give and Take".

"Risk vs Rewards". Basic in trading and this can clearly see on Brexit whether worth for an exit.
Let me put you in the picture a little. Attempts were made to achieve a little "give and take" but the EU said NO. Brexit has more to do with democracy and the loss of it, under the EU, than it has to do with matters purely economic. Brexit has more to do with self determination and belief in the UK than it has to do with the benefits of the club.

You are looking at the wrong risk and reward. Democracy might not be a big thing in China, but it is the essence of our society here in the UK
The funny thing is the UK economy rise stronger a few months after the Black Wednesday.
Take my view with a pinch of salt!
Quoting ChinaTraderz
At least I know when leaving, they will lost almost a million job by 2030.
You don't know that at all. That is just an assumption, a guess. I hope you are on firmer ground when it comes to taking trades, big shot.

Switzerland and Norway are outside of the EU and numbers 2 and 3 in the per capita rich list of countries. Granted, Luxembourg is first, but hey.

Where is UK, China on that list?
Quoting ultra99
You don't know that at all. That is just an assumption, a guess. I hope you are on firmer ground when it comes to taking trades, big shot.

Switzerland and Norway are outside of the EU and numbers 2 and 3 in the per capita rich list of countries. Granted, Luxembourg is first, but hey.

Where is UK, China on that list?
Luxembourg has an advantage in that all the highly paid EU bureaucrats reside there in Brussels.

Chinese democracy at play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHDJynHK15Y
Soros has probably taken a bet and is trying to influence the outcome so he wins.
Unfortunatly there will be no Brexit as EU is totalitarian and only benefit a few.

So what is going to go up from the depths , it is simply this Right of Peoples to self -determination as Brussels, slowly but surely has the ultimate ambition to make them disappear. And all totalitarianisms have the ambition to make disappear the concept.
the market is not random but anything can happen.
Quoting ThunderHeart
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Lol Confucius he say, don't upset ThunderHeart or you get mouthful of abuse
Quoting anudora
The funny thing is the UK economy rise stronger a few months after the Black Wednesday.
Effective devaluation. Our ace in the hole now.

15% reduction in the value of sterling will be so stimulative to exporting trade/industry because of the lower price point internationally just as it was in '92
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No Brexit. It will be rigged just like the good old US elections
Quoting nbfx
Effective devaluation. Our ace in the hole now.

15% reduction in the value of sterling will be so stimulative to exporting trade/industry because of the lower price point internationally just as it was in '92
Very true
im going to laugh my ass off when nothing comes of all this referendum bs, oh but we are going to have a 20% devaluation! lol so much hype on pure bullshit
All posts are my personal opinion
Quoting Rtm
im going to laugh my ass off when nothing comes of all this referendum bs, oh but we are going to have a 20% devaluation! lol so much hype on pure bullshit
But at least the Brits have had the courage to stand up against something that is rotten to the core. Regardless of the outcome, the institution of the EU is under the spotlight. Maybe other EU countries can give the EU a bloody nose as well
Quoting ThunderHeart
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You are pretty funny and I don't think you are qualify to discuss with me at all. And you are true as opposition that use racism, using those all branded company who never agree that Brexit will be better for UK and of course most of them hope Britain to remain (Nissan for instance).

For your information, I was employed in a proprietary company based in Switzerland before this, then a hedge fund firm in UK, then now only employed and based in China. And of course, I am not a China citizen and most of my life spent in the west. So please don't assume I am from jungle who know nothing about freedom and a speculators who trade thousand dollar account just like what you do now.
Quoting Devauxt
Very true
+1
Never Gamble Forex
Quoting Devauxt
Lol Confucius he say, don't upset ThunderHeart or you get mouthful of abuse
An educated person discuss/debate more gentlemen and win by point of sense instead of racism/mouth abuse as hooligan over the streets. That's the difference.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
An educated person discuss/debate more gentlemen and win by point of sense instead of racism/mouth abuse as hooligan over the streets. That's the difference.
I am not qualified? You don't know shit about me!

Try writing proper English first and second try knowing the definition of racism before trying to accuse someone of it! Most of your time spent in the west? Right! Sure what ever you say! That is why you can't write proper English? I would demand my money back from what ever so called school you attended.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
An educated person discuss/debate more gentlemen and win by point of sense instead of racism/mouth abuse as hooligan over the streets. That's the difference.
Ah, you didn't understand the joke. What a shame
Quoting ChinaTraderz
An educated person discuss/debate more gentlemen and win by point of sense instead of racism/mouth abuse as hooligan over the streets. That's the difference.
An educated person learns how to write proper English first before engaging in a forum whose primary language is English!
Quoting ThunderHeart
Try writing proper English first and second try knowing the definition of racism before trying to accuse someone of it! Most of your time spent in the west? Right! Sure hat ever you say! That is why you can't write proper English?
Yeah, English is not my first language and I have to admit that. That's not racism?

Racism is a product of the complex interaction in a given society of a race-based worldview with prejudice, stereotyping, and discrimination. Racism can be present in social actions, practices, or political systems (e.g., apartheid) that support the expression of prejudice or aversion in discriminatory practices.

Although English is not my first language, but I believe what you quote just now are fit into this definitions.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Yeah, English is not my first language and I have to admit that. That's not racism?

Racism is a product of the complex interaction in a given society of a race-based worldview with prejudice, stereotyping, and discrimination. Racism can be present in social actions, practices, or political systems (e.g., apartheid) that support the expression of prejudice or aversion in discriminatory practices.

Although English is not my first language, but I believe what you quote just now are fit into this definitions.

Yet you presume to tell the British people that their whole reason for Brexit is "What reason to support leaving EU? Just because of controlling their own border benefit? That's suck. Using the whole country economic to buy own borders? Don't you think this is silly decision? " I think the reaction has been against your lack of research and dumb ass assumptions
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Yeah, English is not my first language and I have to admit that. That's not racism?

Racism is a product of the complex interaction in a given society of a race-based worldview with prejudice, stereotyping, and discrimination. Racism can be present in social actions, practices, or political systems (e.g., apartheid) that support the expression of prejudice or aversion in discriminatory practices.

Although English is not my first language, but I believe what you quote just now are fit into this definitions.
Where did you get that off of? Copy and paste "Wikipedia"? And where in my statement do I exactly exemplify racism? Are you really that stupid to not know the difference or the meaning of racism?

"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." What does being critical of ones language ability have to do with race?

Because you can't speak proper English, and someone tells you so, your response is to call them racist? Seriously? Are you really that dumb? Seriously quit while you are ahead, you are embarrassing yourself!
Quoting ThunderHeart
Where did you get that off of? Copy and paste "Wikipedia"? And where in my statement do I exactly exemplify racism? Are you really that stupid to not know the difference or the meaning of racism?

"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." What does being critical of ones language ability have to do with race?

Because you can't speak proper English, and someone tells you so, your response is to call them racist? Seriously? Are you really that dumb?...
Why I quit because of a small potato who cannot control his own temper when losing a debate or showing off his English Class? Can I use this for your Singlish "small potato" to understand better? Sorry my fault not copy paste the link of Wikipedia.

Today, the use of the term "racism" does not easily fall under a single definition. It is usually found in, but usage is not limited to, law, the social and behavioral sciences, humanities, and popular culture.
Quoting gravitist
There will be no non-stop warfare if Britain leaves the EU. That's just fear-mongering. Switzerland isn't in the EU, and I don't see them at war with anyone. So, who's going to attack Britain if it leaves the EU? Belgium? Lichtenstein? Give me a break!
That's what Ukrainian government said when they deliberately dismissed their army back in 2008.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Why I quit because of a small potato who cannot control his own temper when losing a debate or showing off his English Class? Can I use this for your Singlish "small potato" to understand better? Sorry my fault not copy paste the link of Wikipedia.

Today, the use of the term "racism" does not easily fall under a single definition. It is usually found in, but usage is not limited to, law, the social and behavioral sciences, humanities, and popular culture.
Is it racist trying to keep this lot out? Is this reality not worse than Farage's poster? Are they really fleeing persecution? Then what's wrong with Turkey, Greece, France etc. And why are they all young men? Should we let them all in? No, they are economic migrants intent on getting into the UK and will risk life to do so (theirs and yours). Once they have set foot on UK soil they know they have it made, for not only will they be given money, housing, free healthcare, schooling etc. then they will bring the rest of their families over and they all get everything for free! We will be powerless to prevent them, for it will be against their "human rights" as dictated to us by the EU.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3651956/Hundreds-migrants-closed-Calais-violent-rampage-tried-board-ferries-UK-police-used-tear-gas-force-back.html
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Agreed jen101... http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/heres-a-fine-example-of-the-trouble-our-continent-is-descending-into/
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all I see is censors hitting the panic buttons, hehe.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Why I quit because of a small potato who cannot control his own temper when losing a debate or showing off his English Class? Can I use this for your Singlish "small potato" to understand better? Sorry my fault not copy paste the link of Wikipedia.

Today, the use of the term "racism" does not easily fall under a single definition. It is usually found in, but usage is not limited to, law, the social and behavioral sciences, humanities, and popular culture.
Losing a debate? You haven't provided anything resembling a cogent argument or anything to be considered close to being intelligent in the statements you made thus far! GET REAL! There is no debate because you are the small potato and I bet that is what she said too!
Quoting jen101
Is it racist trying to keep this lot out? Is this reality not worse than Farage's poster? Are they really fleeing persecution? Then what's wrong with Turkey, Greece, France etc. And why are they all young men? Should we let them all in? No, they are economic migrants intent on getting into the UK and will risk life to do so (theirs and yours). Once they have set foot on UK soil they know they have it made, for not only will they be given money, housing, free healthcare, schooling etc. then they will bring the rest of their families over and they...
Actually I do agree UK to leave EU as many of my previous post but not now. If leaving EU now, can it immediately solve migrant problem? Leaving doesn't mean reduced immigration. Countries that trade with EU from outside have higher rates of immigration, including from EU Countries, than Britain. But it will ignite UK economical unstable.

1) The economy will suffer as trade drops and firms cut staff, so the Bank is less likely to raise interest rates.

2) Firms will close sites in UK and move to Eurozone, so the latter will get economic boost & more investment.

3) Britain benefits from hundreds of billions worth of trade with the EU per year and will lose more in the long term.

4) UK & Ireland compete, but if UK leaves then FDI in Ireland will jump. Of course not mentioning Paris, Frankfurt, Athens. Portugal, Czech(relatively cheap, relatively skilled). They will grab all UK trade in long term.

There are claims it would reduce regulation. I can't see that: UK is already one of the least regulated countries in EU, but if they wished to, they could deregulate more whether in or out. Of course there are various reasons and I won't list it one by one here.
Quoting ThunderHeart
Losing a debate? You haven't provided anything resembling a cogent argument or anything to be considered close to being intelligent in the statements you made thus far! GET REAL! There is no debate because you are the small potato and I bet that is what she said too!
Ok, you won. Go celebrate in a party now and remember to baked some potatoes.
All of the major central banks are doing whatever it takes to bring their currency down. So what if GBP goes down, how can it be bad for Britain. All of sudden people like Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan and George Soros with vested interest in keeping status quo are coming out left and right in favor of keeping England slave to EU aristocrats. George Soros must have a fortune bet on status quo. When did he start worrying about welfare of people of England ?
This is why I find it is so incredulous having a referendum without a real logical reason. It is more on emotional reasons instead. Eurosceptics are made up on Brits to believe Britain has a special place in the world and is being held back or oppressed by the EU. They thought they can become powerhouse like Japan, Suisse, Singapore or even Hong Kong. Did those Eurosceptics given about how this possible? Of course if you think leaving the worlds largest trading bloc is logical, I have nothing to say and possibly will just ignored.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
This is why I find it is so incredulous having a referendum without a real logical reason. It is more on emotional reasons instead. Eurosceptics are made up on Brits to believe Britain has a special place in the world and is being held back or oppressed by the EU. They thought they can become powerhouse like Japan, Suisse, Singapore or even Hong Kong. Did those Eurosceptics given about how this possible? Of course if you think leaving the worlds largest trading bloc is logical, I have nothing to say and possibly will just ignored.
Exactly. You the only one making valid points here..

FYI
I am with the remain side on this one.
All posts are my personal opinion
Quoting Rtm
Exactly. You the only one making valid points here..

FYI
I am with the remain side on this one.
Oh Sorry, I am on leaving side actually although I am not Brits but not on this type of emotional and Eurosceptics leaving without a real logical reason.
Given that Soros is an evil, greedy manipulator, its a given that what he wants the world should want the opposite. He is the enemy of freedom. Soros wants Remain so I'll vote leave.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
This is why I find it is so incredulous having a referendum without a real logical reason. It is more on emotional reasons instead. Eurosceptics are made up on Brits to believe Britain has a special place in the world and is being held back or oppressed by the EU. They thought they can become powerhouse like Japan, Suisse, Singapore or even Hong Kong. Did those Eurosceptics given about how this possible? Of course if you think leaving the worlds largest trading bloc is logical, I have nothing to say and possibly will just ignored.
You see things only from the financial perspective. The UK is losing control of its government to the EU, the UK has little or no say in the running of the EU, EU laws devised by EU bureaucrats override UK laws, the UK cannot deport undesirable migrants, the UK's democracy has and is being eroded by the EU, the UK has no influence over who becomes the presidents in the EU (there are four of them), the UK has no control over the EU's waste, fraud or largesse, the UK has little influence over which countries join the EU, the UK has no control over the increasing number of bureaucrats and bureaucracy, two thirds of UK government administration is taken up by EU bureaucracy, UK housing, healthcare, benefits system and education resources are under severe strain due to migration we cannot control mainly due to EU meddling. So lets put up with all of that for few Shekels..... I don't think so. You underestimate the British in two key areas, 1 that they are going to continue to put up with this crap from the EU and 2, the resolve of the British to ensure that they have a healthy and thriving economy.

The focus from the supposed economic experts has been on the UK making the wrong decision, where as the focus should be on the EU getting it house in order. Not once have we heard Obama or Golden Sacks or ECB saying that the EU is broken and need to fix its issues with urgency. Why, because it is easier to focus on the symptom of the broken EU than to address the real issue and that is the EU itself
Quoting Devauxt
The focus from the supposed economic experts has been on the UK making the wrong decision, where as the focus should be on the EU getting it house in order. Not once have we heard Obama or Golden Sacks or ECB saying that the EU is broken and need to fix its issues with urgency. Why, because it is easier to focus on the symptom of the broken EU than to address the real issue and that is the EU itself
spot on
Quoting Devauxt
You see things only from the financial perspective. The UK is losing control of its government to the EU, the UK has little or no say in the running of the EU, EU laws devised by EU bureaucrats override UK laws, the UK cannot deport undesirable migrants, the UK's democracy has and is being eroded by the EU, the UK has no influence over who becomes the presidents in the EU (there are four of them), the UK has no control over the EU's waste, fraud or largesse, the UK has little influence over which countries join the EU, the UK has no control over...
Well said
If the EU were simply a group of nations trading together for mutual benefit I would be right there fighting to remain. BUT it isn't EVEN a group of nations trading together for mutual benefit. And that is yet another reason why we must leave.
Quoting nbfx
If the EU were simply a group of nations trading together for mutual benefit I would be right there fighting to remain. BUT it isn't EVEN a group of nations trading together for mutual benefit. And that is yet another reason why we must leave.
It is MEP's from a group of nations sucking the life out of Europe for mutual benefit
I wish it were only MEP's they really are nothing more than window dressing.
Quoting nbfx
I wish it were only MEP's they really are nothing more than window dressing.
Agreed. The EU is a cancer in Europe
Quoting Devauxt
You may be right but I hope not. Whatever way the vote goes, the UK electorates relationship with the EU has changed forever. I also believe that the broader electorate within Europe has had its eyes opened to the true EU
If we want reform in the EU government the only way is to be a member.
Gone to a better place
Quoting Devauxt
Agreed. The EU is a cancer in Europe
The EU is the best thing that ever happened to Europe.
Gone to a better place
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Ok, you won. Go celebrate in a party now and remember to baked some potatoes.
Someone is obsessed with Potatoes and it isn't me. Go eat your lunch, because it seems your low blood sugar is making you flip flop all over the place like a flounder on sand houses!
Quoting Devauxt
You see things only from the financial perspective. The UK is losing control of its government to the EU, the UK has little or no say in the running of the EU, EU laws devised by EU bureaucrats override UK laws, the UK cannot deport undesirable migrants, the UK's democracy has and is being eroded by the EU, the UK has no influence over who becomes the presidents in the EU (there are four of them), the UK has no control over the EU's waste, fraud or largesse, the UK has little influence over which countries join the EU, the UK has no control over...

Very well succinctly stated, couldn't said it better myself!
Quoting smikester
If we want reform in the EU government the only way is to be a member.
Typical operative shill. But hey what did anybody expect from all the rest of lemmings going over the cliff?
Quoting smikester
"If we want reform in the EU government the only way is to be a member."

If the Americans want reform in the British Empire, the only way is to be a member of the empire. Oh wait, the Americans LEFT. Well, I guess everything went bad, right? No, actually America today is the strongest nation on earth.

So, those who predict calamity if Britain leaves the EU need to open their history books.
Quoting smikester
If we want reform in the EU government the only way is to be a member.
How do you propose the UK does that when 54% of the EU parliament vote is controlled by two integrationist groups?
Mmm. Thought this was the comment section about George Soros' fruity "bets" ... . Appears to be a pissing match board over what's good for the UK and what the EU's all about ... . Lol.
Fireworks are fun ... as long as you don't blow your fingers off.
Quoting ZebraSquirl
Mmm. Thought this was the comment section about George Soros' fruity "bets" ... . Appears to be a pissing match board over what's good for the UK and what the EU's all about ... . Lol.
This is the educational section
Quoting ZebraSquirl
Mmm. Thought this was the comment section about George Soros' fruity "bets" ... . Appears to be a pissing match board over what's good for the UK and what the EU's all about ... . Lol.
and George Soros is respected anywhere else except the money grabbing financial sector?
Unfortunately ww111 may not be far away, however not like any other, the cross nation differences may not be the issue, it'll be the have not's against the have everything and 100's of times more, yet the loads are all through debts of have not's.
Just because you have not does not mean you have have not intelligence!
May be fun, born into money to buy degree;s versus intelligence and common sense.
I thought this website discuss all about what your view in terms of financial perspective instead of political view. OK, I am weak and know nothing about political, especially it is beyond my knowledge to discuss about it.

David Cameron said "Think of children, think your futures" not "think of power". Grexit yell we want independence. "Brexit" follow the same mistake in political way for referendum . Grexit "Leave" won but bank close, exchanges close, citizen suffer. This will repeat if Brexit "Leave" win and no way for turning back. You got the power you want, and of course there is a price to pay.

If they leave it will be a victory for the stupid political view that crazy for power and never care about futures. Maybe it's what they deserve if UKIP can be the 3rd largest party in the country.

I think Ireland and Scotland will be sitting on sideline praying UK to leave and they are ready to share this free meat. If I am Scotland, I will vote "Leave" for Britain. Then held another referendum for Scotland independence, join EU and take this fat meat.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
I thought this website discuss all about what your view in terms of financial perspective instead of political view. OK, I am weak and know nothing about political, especially it is beyond my knowledge to discuss about it.

David Cameron said "Think of children, think your futures" not "think of power". Grexit yell we want independence. "Brexit" follow the same mistake in political way for referendum . Grexit "Leave" won but bank close, exchanges close, citizen suffer. This will repeat if Brexit "Leave" win and no way for turning back. You got...
I'll agree with your second sentence
Quoting ChinaTraderz
I thought this website discuss all about what your view in terms of financial perspective instead of political view. OK, I am weak and know nothing about political, especially it is beyond my knowledge to discuss about it.

David Cameron said "Think of children, think your futures" not "think of power". Grexit yell we want independence. "Brexit" follow the same mistake in political way for referendum . Grexit "Leave" won but bank close, exchanges close, citizen suffer. This will repeat if Brexit "Leave" win and no way for turning back. You got...
Wow! Idiot.

You cannot even see through the obvious garbage let alone realise the Greek people are still in the EU, which they voted out of, yet were overwhelmed by the EU to stay by means of financial aid.
not onry is yur ingrish bad so is your understanding.
do you even know the difference between suprise and supplies?
Quoting gandolf13
Wow! Idiot.

You cannot even see through the obvious garbage let alone realise the Greek people are still in the EU, which they voted out of, yet were overwhelmed by the EU to stay by means of financial aid.
not onry is yur ingrish bad so is your understanding.
do you even know the difference between suprise and supplies?

By the way China Tradez, that was racist.
Quoting gandolf13
Wow! Idiot.

You cannot even see through the obvious garbage let alone realise the Greek people are still in the EU, which they voted out of, yet were overwhelmed by the EU to stay by means of financial aid.
not onry is yur ingrish bad so is your understanding.
do you even know the difference between suprise and supplies?
Any different with Brexit? Of course I know they are still in EU, the story tell us don't vote because of power without thinking your future, financial and economical. It's ok, I don't mind those act smart, but not even know how stupid they are.
Ok, watch The Great Debate, no need to show how smart you are here. Let the smart people to debate and we, those "small potatoes" to watch.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Any different with Brexit? Of course I know they are still in EU, the story tell us don't vote because of power without thinking your future, financial and economical. It's ok, I don't mind those act smart, but not even know how stupid they are.
It was politely suggested that you take time to research some of threads and posts in here, regarding the issues that have brought about the Brexit movements so that your comments were qualified, but you don't seem to have taken the time to do so. Is it any wonder people are frustrated with your comments
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Any different with Brexit? Of course I know they are still in EU, the story tell us don't vote because of power without thinking your future, financial and economical. It's ok, I don't mind those act smart, but not even know how stupid they are.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Ok, watch The Great Debate, no need to show how smart you are here. Let the smart people to debate and we, those "small potatoes" to watch.
If that was meant to be poety you failed again.
If not, just put what you really mean in Chinese, then we can use a decent translator!
I love Sadiq Khan, "What is your plan"? "What is your plan"?

Again compare with Suisse and Singapore again with a slogan but without a plan.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
I love Sadiq Khan, "What is your plan"? "What is your plan"?

Again compare with Suisse and Singapore again with a slogan but without a plan.
I would respect Sadiq Khan, but he is a lawyer, means if he gets paid he will fight for innocence for a guilty person and fight for guilty for an innocent party!
Quoting gandolf13
I would respect Sadiq Khan, but he is a lawyer, means if he gets paid he will fight for innocence for a guilty person and fight for guilty for an innocent party!
That's my question as well for "Leave" party. What is their plan in economical point of view? If they can give a good plan, leaving is good. But if fighting because of power or political, that's bullshit. It will kill Brits workers.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
That's my question as well for "Leave" party. What is their plan in economical point of view? If they can give a good plan, leaving is good. But if fighting because of power or political, that's bullshit. It will kill Brits workers.
you heard it from Leave, Get out there and build trading relationships with over 50 other countries
Quoting Devauxt
This is the educational section
You should do well here then? LoL
Lot to learn.
To start with we i believe are still part of The British Commonwealth, in fact I believe our Queen is still head of state of The Commonwealth, maybe we will be able to trade with them ( in the EU we cannot ).
Yes there may be a problem especially as a some of our commonwealth seem to be tax haven's, this is a bad thing if we leave? maybe we will ask these haven's to start taxing and gift some to the UK!
Quoting Devauxt
you heard it from Leave, Get out there and build trading relationships with over 50 other countries
Full of lies on "Leave" Campaign. That's what I can see so far.
Please stop China Traderz, I hope for you your trading is better than your posts. love
Quoting cliffedwards
You should do well here then? LoL
Lot to learn.
Oh I do cliffedwards, every single day
Quoting gandolf13
and George Soros is respected anywhere else except the money grabbing financial sector?
I fail to understand the "respect" part ... . He's had one "bomber" bet that he made out on in the past several, well, literally decades ... . The rest of his bets have largely turned into turdpiles ... .

From a trader's standpoint, the relative merits of "Leave" or "Stay" are somewhat irrelevant in the short term. There will be a vote; the result will move the market. Traders will trade accordingly ... .
Fireworks are fun ... as long as you don't blow your fingers off.
Quoting gandolf13
Please stop China Traderz, I hope for you your trading is better than your posts. love
You know why? Trading is not about system and gambling. It is about how you weight the risk. Tell me now "Leave" campaign is not gambling their futures with their lies.
Remain campaign is relying on their lies!
Quoting ChinaTraderz
You know why? Trading is not about system and gambling. It is about how you weight the risk. Tell me now "Leave" campaign is not gambling their futures with their lies.
What price democracy??
I think the problem would disappear if countries were able to re-assess their membership in the EU every 5 years or so!
I vote "Leave", leave the market for a week. LoL. This week for speculators and I earn my money from speculators. I don't mind allowing them to happy for a week. As Soros said "Leave would make some speculators rich but voters poor".
Quoting gandolf13
I think the problem would disappear if countries were able to re-assess their membership in the EU every 5 years or so!
Good idea . Only problem is that the EU bosses are not voted in and therefore if you were one would you reassess your job every 5 years. I doubt it, not on the money they are getting.
That's the problem, if you want an EU government then make it accountable to the Eu people as one not by nation then all 29 of us may have faith, love the idea, hate what it is.
the UK needs to leave, few years hard no problem, nowhere as hard as the Greek austerity!
But not worse then Chuck Norris!
Quoting smikester
If we want reform in the EU government the only way is to be a member.
OMG. Ryanair O'Leary just said the same thing. +1
Quoting ThunderHeart
I am not qualified? You don't know shit about me!

Try writing proper English first and second try knowing the definition of racism before trying to accuse someone of it! Most of your time spent in the west? Right! Sure what ever you say! That is why you can't write proper English? I would demand my money back from what ever so called school you attended.
"You don't know shit about me. Try writing proper English first...."

Priceless Thunderheart.
Gone to a better place
User comment from
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3652793/Queen-said-asking-dinner-guests-three-good-reasons-Britain-EU.html#ixzz4CHvWdZkz
The EU was devised to make sure that the great mass of people could not control government EVER again, we have NO POWER over the leaders, we are now subjects of a vastly complex state machine, run by anonymous officials who we didn't elect, but who have the power to impose laws on us that we haven't debated and have no democratic means or repeal, 72 times Britain has voted on main issues and 72 times we lost, and did you know these people have their own massive,and heavily subsidised shopping centre, not open to the public, and that there are over 10,000 of these people paid more than our PM, I suggest that all the people of Europe watch the film BREXIT, THE MOVIE, it'll be an eye opener for them as well as us Brits.
Quoting smikester
If we want reform in the EU government the only way is to be a member.
What good is being part of the EU when your vote counts for nothing in the EU parliament. The UK has an 86% loss rate when voting in the EU parliament and the integrationist groups EPP and S&D own 54% of the vote. Where is the influence??

Please someone tell me how you win any votes when you can only ever achieve a minority. There must be some bright spark out there who has the answer
Quoting ChinaTraderz
OMG. Ryanair O'Leary just said the same thing. +1
O'Leary would sell his mother and his children in his own interest. He has the credibility of a *** (due to smikesters delicate sensibilities, I have been asked to remove this word) and is loathed by most right thinking people
Quoting Devauxt
O'Leary would sell his mother and his children in his own interest. He has the credibility of a turd and is loathed by most right thinking people
Ok, I know you are smart guy who hope Britain to "Leave" but we can learn how to respect other people choices instead of bring other parents out on the table when they are not on your side.

Talking about credibility, I doubt on John Longworth. How can he lie to people there will be no impact on economy if Brexit "Leave" win. This is the biggest lie.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Ok, I know you are smart guy who hope Britain to "Leave" but we can learn how to respect other people choices instead of bring other parents out on the table when they are not on your side.

Talking about credibility, I doubt on John Longworth. How can he lie to people there will be no impact on economy if Brexit "Leave" win. This is the biggest lie.
You don't have to be smart to figure out Brexit.
Quoting ZebraSquirl
I fail to understand the "respect" part ... . He's had one "bomber" bet that he made out on in the past several, well, literally decades ... . The rest of his bets have largely turned into turdpiles ... .

From a trader's standpoint, the relative merits of "Leave" or "Stay" are somewhat irrelevant in the short term. There will be a vote; the result will move the market. Traders will trade accordingly ... .
well said! that's all there is to it!
All posts are my personal opinion
Quoting frx_trader
You don't have to be smart to figure out Brexit.
That's true. As ZebraSquirl mentioned, no matter what the result are, it will move the market and trader will trade accordingly.

Frankly speak, in my trading point of view, I hope "Leave" is the outcome. "Remain" will move the market, but not good enough compare to "Leave".
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Ok, I know you are smart guy who hope Britain to "Leave" but we can learn how to respect other people choices instead of bring other parents out on the table when they are not on your side.

Talking about credibility, I doubt on John Longworth. How can he lie to people there will be no impact on economy if Brexit "Leave" win. This is the biggest lie.
Respect is won or gained in this part of the world and not an automatic right. People have little or no respect for O'Leary because he has shown himself to be an unscrupulous business man who would employ any method legitimate or otherwise to make a shekel. He has little or no regard for his customer and treats them with utter disdain. Anything that O'Leary promotes is only ever in his own interest.

The use of "sell his mother and children" is a colloquial term her in the west for someone who is without morals when it come to doing business.

When you said "we can learn how to respect other people choices", that was you respecting the choice of 50% of the British electorate to recover their democracy from an unelected elite in Brussels when you said " the stupid political view that crazy for power and never care about futures"??

Please, If you want to comment on the issues, take the time to research the issues. Show a little respect for all the people in here, regardless of their view, by understanding what it was that brought about this referendum in the first place.
Quote
Martin Schulz, the President of the European Parliament. Speaking at the London School of Economics:-


Brussels is used to tricky referendums. The "No" votes delivered by France, the Netherlands and Ireland to the Constitutional and Lisbon treaties a decade ago were a bothersome, if ultimately inconsequential, reminder that European voters were yet to learn to love the European Project.

Now that sounds ominous...
Quoting nbfx
Now that sounds ominous...
He has no regard for the voter and is an arrogant ar**h**e, much like the rest of the EU
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what brought about the referendum in the first place?
Quoting Guest
what brought about the referendum in the first place?
Check here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum
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so Cameron got voted in by the electorate because he promised a referendum. any idea why Cameron is being maligned now by many brexit supporters?
So Tariffs for Leaving EU huh? Really? Hmmm, wonder if Democracy is originated from Europe.
Quoting Guest
so Cameron got voted in by the electorate because he promised a referendum. any idea why Cameron is being maligned now by many brexit supporters?
Because he said that if he wasn't able to renegotiate the UK relationship with the EU he would support the Brexit. He went to Brussels and came back with nothing yet he is telling us to remain
Am liking the tariff argument, how about we slap 50% sales tax on Merc's, Audi's, VW's etc and take 50% off the price of Honda's, Tata's (Read Range Rover, Jaguars et al) Nissans and Toyota's..... you want to talk tariff's ..Good luck with that
Quoting Devauxt
Because he said that if he wasn't bale to renegotiate the UK relationship with the EU he would support the Brexit. He went to Brussels and came back with nothing yet he is telling us to remain
Absolutely, he's looking more like Francois Hollande every day..... Weak
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I don't understand the use of 'bale' in the context of the sentence. Did Cameron promise, before his election, to come back from Brussels with something specific and then support brexit?
Quoting NewtonsCash
Am liking the tariff argument, how about we slap 50% sales tax on Merc's, Audi's, VW's etc and take 50% off the price of Honda's, Tata's (Read Range Rover, Jaguars et al) Nissans and Toyota's..... you want to talk tariff's ..Good luck with that
Tariff are a two way street. I don't understand why the remain camp don't get that.

France will want to play chicken and the Germans will say vee are not going to hurt each other, are we?
You stick 20% duty on EU cars and within a nanosecond Merkel will recieve a number of phone calls from some of the most powerful people in the world saying "Fix This". The argument over tariffs and trying to punish UK is instantly over. It really is that simple.

Never forget we Export significantly less to Euope than they export to us and over time this trade gap has been increasing year on year. An increasing proportion of our exporting is to the rest of the world and that will get easier.
Quoting nbfx
You stick 20% duty on EU cars and within a nanosecond Merkel will recieve a number of phone calls from some of the most powerful people in the world saying "Fix This". The argument over tariffs and trying to punish UK is instantly over. It really is that simple.

Never forget we Export significantly less to Euope than they export to us and over time this trade gap has been increasing year on year. An increasing proportion of our exporting is to the rest of the world and that will get easier.
Exactly right
Quoting Devauxt
Respect is won or gained in this part of the world and not an automatic right. People have little or no respect for O'Leary because he has shown himself to be an unscrupulous business man who would employ any method legitimate or otherwise to make a shekel. He has little or no regard for his customer and treats them with utter disdain. Anything that O'Leary promotes is only ever in his own interest.

The use of "sell his mother and children" is a colloquial term her in the west for someone who is without morals when it come to doing business.

When...
Ok, we don't need to argue who is right or wrong. Yes, I have to admit that I did mentioned stupid political view that lie to their voters and I hate politic. I hope Britain will not destroy by this politic emotional referendum.

I love Britain, I love this country although I only stay there for 2 years, and I always hope they will get better.

We will see the result soon. If "Leave" won, I hope I am wrong, I hope most economist mistake with their forecast.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Ok, we don't need to argue who is right or wrong. Yes, I have to admit that I did mentioned stupid political view that lie to their voters and I hate politic. I hope Britain will not destroy by this politic emotional referendum.

I love Britain, I love this country although I only stay there for 2 years, and I always hope they will get better.

We will see the result soon. If "Leave" won, I hope I am wrong, I hope most economist mistake with their forecast.

The referendum is about people choice. About Democracy. I hope you do understand choice and democracy. It's not about Tariffs. That's to say. If Britain dares to leave. EU will retaliate by slapping high Tariffs. To make Britain products not competitive.

That's punishment. Should I say it's a threat? You do understand, don't you?
Quoting frx_trader
The referendum is about people choice. About Democracy. I hope you do understand choice and democracy. It's not about Tariffs. That's to say. If Britain dares to leave. EU will retaliate by slapping high Tariffs. To make Britain products not competitive.

That's punishment. Should I say it's a threat? You do understand, don't you?
Yes, indeed it is a threat. I am absolutely agree with you. But in fact, how many voters understand the risk behind? The "Leave" campaign lie to them. They tell those voters nothing will happen and they will do better after leave. They have those slogans, but they don't have the "silver bullets".

One thing is for sure. One of the biggest political decisions made by British voters is going to have a massive impact on many aspects of not only politics, but daily life and even the very fabric of the United Kingdom.

As I said, I hope I am wrong, I hope most of economic expert forecast are wrong if Leave win.
Quoting Devauxt
Respect is won or gained in this part of the world and not an automatic right. People have little or no respect for O'Leary because he has shown himself to be an unscrupulous business man who would employ any method legitimate or otherwise to make a shekel. He has little or no regard for his customer and treats them with utter disdain. Anything that O'Leary promotes is only ever in his own interest.

The use of "sell his mother and children" is a colloquial term her in the west for someone who is without morals when it come to doing business.

When...

Much like Hillary Clinton, except she is just downright evil to her core. Why people vote for criminals to lead them? Because they are soulless themselves!
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Yes, indeed it is a threat. I am absolutely agree with you. But in fact, how many voters understand the risk behind? The "Leave" campaign lie to them. They tell those voters nothing will happen and they will do better after leave. They have those slogans, but they don't have the "silver bullets".

One thing is for sure. One of the biggest political decisions made by British voters is going to have a massive impact on many aspects of not only politics, but daily life and even the very fabric of the United Kingdom.

As I said, I hope I am wrong,...
Silver Bullet? Anybody has one? I believe in British people. They will make a good choice. Whether it's Remain or Exit.

I believe British people have silver bullets. Not the clowns.
Quoting ThunderHeart
Much like Hillary Clinton, except she is just downright evil to her core. Why people vote for criminals to lead them? Because they are soulless themselves!

Lol
So, so you think you can tell
Heaven from hell
Blue skies from pain
Can you tell a green field
From a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?

Did they get you to trade
Your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
And did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage?

How I wish, how I wish you were here
We're just two lost souls
Swimming in a fish bowl
Year after year
Running over the same old ground
And how we found
The same old fears
Wish you were here!
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Quoting frx_trader
Silver Bullet? Anybody has one? I believe in British people. They will make a good choice. Whether it's Remain or Exit.

I believe British people have silver bullets. Not the clowns.
Agree. No matter what the outcome, I hope we have a better Britain. I will spend my Christmas and Birthday holiday break in London no matter "Leave" or "Remain".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai4yYAkZw2k

Boris! You the man! Truly inspiring, shooting from the hip, speaking with heart, conviction and speaking the truth! What else more do you want from a leader! A doer not a sayer!
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Yes, indeed it is a threat. I am absolutely agree with you. But in fact, how many voters understand the risk behind? The "Leave" campaign lie to them. They tell those voters nothing will happen and they will do better after leave. They have those slogans, but they don't have the "silver bullets".

One thing is for sure. One of the biggest political decisions made by British voters is going to have a massive impact on many aspects of not only politics, but daily life and even the very fabric of the United Kingdom.

As I said, I hope I am wrong,...

The question is why shall another region be dictated to ? This is a shift and a tactic for a global Governing body . The writing is on the wall what they are trying to achieve. The U.K can trade with anyone whats it got to do with this EU governance? Borders are slowly being dissolved via the Establishment through cunning force of migration . Question why the bigger trend of migration is being imposed on many regions. Question why people are running for a life. Why are regions being forced the intake with a bankers double sided coin tactic. The rudeness of the EU should be alarming to anyone. Who cares of the economic forecasters. The predictors playing with human lives. The bankers are behind all this shit and the globe needs to tear them a new arsehole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gYFn6dv19U
Nothing to do with Brexit but paints a picture.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2016/05/christine-lagarde-head-of-imf-charges-with-fraud-3357054.html
Quoting ThunderHeart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai4yYAkZw2k

Boris! You the man! Truly inspiring, shooting from the hip, speaking with heart, conviction and speaking the truth! What else more do you want from a leader! A doer not a sayer!
Boris will be the next PM

First, this traitor has to resign: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/21/turkeys-chief-presidential-adviser-david-cameron-was-our-chief-s/

We have some heavy rain forecast tomorrow. Maybe the lazy communists won't get out of bed to vote.
Societie Generale Economist doesn't agree with Soros take.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/22/george-soros-wrong-on-brexit-uk-economy-city-economist-erm-devaluation-sterling
Quoting jen101
Boris will be the next PM
I sincerely hope so.
Better read this news rather than that because everyone have their own opinion.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2016/jun/22/markets-edgy-ftse-chiefs-brexit-letter-city-jobs-live

Doesn't make sense at all rallying now. Pre-crash rally? UBS mentioned 350 billion pound wipe off if "Leave". I predict at least 80 billion pound wipe off 1st minute on trading if leave.

Limited upside if "Remain", unlimited downside if "Leave". If you are an investor, will you buy now? Doesn't make sense at all.
Quoting Devauxt
O'Leary would sell his mother and his children in his own interest. He has the credibility of a turd and is loathed by most right thinking people

I think you should delete that comment immediately. I don't think you are enhancing your argument or the brexit cause, or this site by printing libellous and vulgar nonsense.
Gone to a better place
There we go. Finally it is trading something that make more sense. Brexit made me worry to join the market. Otherwise, free money to catch.
Quoting smikester
I think you should delete that comment immediately. I don't think you are enhancing your argument or the brexit cause, or this site by printing libellous and vulgar nonsense.
Libel "a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation;"

Which part was libellous?
Stop arguing please, watch EURO 2016. Let's vote Hungary vs Portugal 1st. Portugal in or out?

By the way, anyone can provide a good live streaming please?
ON A CONCILIATORY NOTE....
If BREXIT wins tomorrow..? ..then like all loyal UK citizens, we got to get behind it..
and PRAY that:

75% of UK democratically elected Members of Parliament
The vast majority of MPs in every party even in the Conservative Party!!!
The Governor of the Bank of England
International Monetary Fund
Institute for Fiscal Studies
Confederation of British Industry
Leaders/heads of state of every single other member of the EU
President of the United States of America
Eight former US Treasury Secretaries
Four of six Chancellors of the Exchecer.
President of China
Prime Minister of India
Prime Minister of Canada
Prime Minister of Australia
Prime Minister of Japan
Prime Minister of New Zealand
The chief executives of most of the top 100 companies in the UK including Marks and Spencer, BT, Asda, Vodafone, Virgin, IBM, BMW etc.
Kofi Annan, the former Secretary General of the United Nations
All living former Prime Ministers of the UK (from both parties)
Virtually all reputable and recognised economists
The Prime Minister of the UK
The leader of the Labour Party
The Leader of the Liberal Democrats
The Leader of the Green Party
The Leader of the Scottish National Party
The leader of Plaid Cymru
Leader of Sinn Fein
Martin Lewis, that money saving dude off the telly
The Secretary General of the TUC
Unison
National Union of Students
National Union of Farmers
Stephen Hawking
Chief Executive of the NHS
300 of the most prominent international historians
Director of Europol
David Anderson QC, Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation
Former Directors of GCHQ
Secretary General of Nato
Church of England
Church in Scotland
Church in Wales
Friends of the Earth
The Society of Motor Manufacturers & Traders
Greenpeace
Director General of the World Trade Organisation
WWF
World Bank
OECD
9 out of 10 UK University Staff


Oh yeah.. and Richard Branson, Jeremy Clarkson and David Beckham.. Lol

ARE WRONG.. NOT JUST WRONG BUT COMPLETELY WRONG.
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AND THAT...

Boris Johnson
Micheal Gove
Leader of UKIP
BNP
Britain First
Donald Trump
Dyson ( Vacuum Machine Manufacturer)
Tim Martin (Pub Chain Owner)
Keith Chegwin
David Icke
Vladamir Putin
Katie Hopkins
Rupert Murdoch
The Daily Mail
The Sun
The Sunday Sport
Marine Le Pen - Leader of the National Front in France
The Ulster Unionist Party
Right Said Fred

ARE RIGHT...
_________________________________________________________________

and that BREXIT wont rank as the stupidest and most destructive own-goal in British democratic history.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Stop arguing please, watch EURO 2016. Let's vote Hungary vs Portugal 1st. Portugal in or out?

By the way, anyone can provide a good live streaming please?
Have you tried http://cricfree.net/

You might have to put in adblocker as well. That takes out any adverts
Quoting smikester
Are you going to delete it?
I have amended my post to appease you. You are most welcome
Quoting Sniper2000
Have you tried http://cricfree.net/

You might have to put in adblocker as well. That takes out any adverts
I got one already, thanks anyway. Portugal on Green Jersey today, very ugly. LoL.

Hungary jersey nicer, just like Manchester United jersey.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
I got one already, thanks anyway. Portugal on Green Jersey today, very ugly. LoL.

Hungary jersey nicer, just like Manchester United jersey.
Nice. England vs Iceland on Last 16, luckily not Portugal, otherwise tough game for England.
Quoting NewtonsCash
Am liking the tariff argument, how about we slap 50% sales tax on Merc's, Audi's, VW's etc and take 50% off the price of Honda's, Tata's (Read Range Rover, Jaguars et al) Nissans and Toyota's..... you want to talk tariff's ..Good luck with that
No need for tariffs. The Germans have spoken

"A German industry boss has said it would be "very, very foolish" if the EU imposes trade barriers on the UK in the event it votes to leave the EU."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36596060
Quoting jen101
Boris will be the next PM

First, this traitor has to resign: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...s-our-chief-s/

We have some heavy rain forecast tomorrow. Maybe the lazy communists won't get out of bed to vote.

Boris for PM! I hope so! What a breath of fresh air that guy is! He was really inspiring! Also Trump gave an amazing speech tearing Hillary a new one. Surely these last few days has been amazing to watch real leaders that the world has been sorely missing for a long time finally emerge! There is hope! Here is hoping that Britain ushers in a new era for change for the entire world!
I think Soros has been loading up on the pound for a week. It hit a major demand zone in February and last week at 1.4000 and hasn't retraced a bit. Right now it's sitting on the 200 day sma ready to launch!

I can see it pulling back to the trendline at 4500 but that's about it.

I bet in two weeks it'll be up a 1000.

He wants everyone to think it's tanking so he can clean up.
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Quoting ThunderHeart
Boris for PM! I hope so! What a breath of fresh air that guy is! He was really inspiring!
Breath of fresh air ? The man looks like he sleeps under a truck lol

Which Boris is exactly the guy you want to be pm?

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2016/05/28/the-great-eu-debate-boris-johnson-vs-boris-johnson/
yes but lets see how the brexit goes any how we will still make our pips as it is in our ff explorer
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Absolutely. Soros only pocket 1 billion. But Brexit will loss 70% company building in Britain because the key factor because of EU access, 50% exports to EU, where will all this go? Maybe the good thing is 2 million leaving UK, but 1 million British workers that work in EU back to Britain. Who will employ them without employer or export demand needed? Frankfurt, Paris or even Athens no harm for those company that decide to leave Britain if they exit. Then where Britain export to after Brexit? Probably back to New Zealand time when they import 60%...

yes but lets see how the brexit goes any how we will still make our pips as it is in our ff explorer
Quoting barkie
Breath of fresh air ? The man looks like he sleeps under a truck lol

Which Boris is exactly the guy you want to be pm?

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2016/...boris-johnson/
So what do you look like, barkie?
Quoting barkie
Breath of fresh air ? The man looks like he sleeps under a truck lol

Which Boris is exactly the guy you want to be pm?

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2016/...boris-johnson/
Go ahead Barkie, pick up them spoons and start slapping them on your knees and start singing "ham bone, ham bone, have you herd? My mother got hit by a flying turd!"
Quoting jen101
So what do you look like, barkie?
Don't mind Barkie, He is just mentally challenged! He ingested a little too many lead based paint chips when he was a child. Hence the white noise that follows when ever he says something!
"Winston Churchill didn't give up on European democracy... and we shouldn't walk away," David Cameron told a crowd in Birmingham, his final rally in a campaign that has been described as one of Britain's most bitter ever."

How dare Cameron quote Churchill! That in of itself is blasphemy coming from a globalist. A chameleon showing their true colors!

"Scum in thousand dollar suits are still scum. Never forget what they are.
They feed at the trough of corruption. They disseminate the meme of the Elites. They are handmaidens to criminals with big titles.

And, again, they hate you and wish your were off their planet, out of their space. You are nothing to them."
i'm zimbabwe resident and i vote britain exit :3
Quoting ThunderHeart
Don't mind Barkie, He is just mentally challenged! He ingested a little too many lead based paint chips when he was a child. Hence the white noise that follows when ever he says something!
You're funny. Anyway I've done my bit for freedom and democracy today. Nerve-wracking wait now! Thunderstorms over London this afternoon forecast - it seems London and Scotland are where most of the remain voters are and population wise, Scotland is insignificant.
Quoting jen101
You're funny. Anyway I've done my bit for freedom and democracy today. Nerve-wracking wait now! Thunderstorms over London this afternoon forecast - it seems London and Scotland are where most of the remain voters are and population wise, Scotland is insignificant.
You are a good woman Jen! The world thanks you for your principles and conviction to stand up against Tyranny, plutocratic totalitarianism masqueraded by a bunch of bankers seeking for total control! Most importantly standing up for Democracy! Kudos to you, and many others who vote to Exit from this evil organization!
I have enjoyed some of your comments ThunderHeart. I for one am so convinced Brexit is what we need.
Quoting ThunderHeart
You are a good woman Jen! The world thanks you for your principles and conviction to stand up against Tyranny, plutocratic totalitarianism masqueraded by a bunch of bankers seeking for total control! Most importantly standing up for Democracy! Kudos to you, and many others who vote to Exit from this evil organization!
This may help - flash flooding in London (note, mostly east London where let's say Sadiq Khan got most of his votes): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3655732/Torrential-rain-storms-spark-travel-chaos-early-hours-EU-referendum-day.html

or this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3655400/Liz-bares-Brexit-Actress-posts-picture-holding-Union-Jack-cushion-urges-social-media-followers-Leave.html

If I post a pic, will I be able to convince a few? LOL
maybe that's a sign. his voters might get washed out to sea
That's it. My vote is cast.

Leave!

Why? This creeping federalism is NOT what we joined nor would we ever. It is time yet again that Britain stood up a fetid scourge that is afflicting Europe and will only ever get worse.

Leaving we have Choice and Hope for a brighter future, staying we have NONE!
Quoting jen101
This may help - flash flooding in London (note, mostly east London where let's say Sadiq Khan got most of his votes): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...endum-day.html

or this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ers-Leave.html

If I post a pic, will I be able to convince a few? LOL
I got a few theories about that, but I am afraid I will get flagged for COC breach. LOL.

Amen Sister! Liz still looking good as ever, and I imagine it is intentionally designed to shove it in Kahn's face!
Quoting ThunderHeart
I got a few theories about that, but I am afraid I will get flagged for COC breach. LOL.

Amen Sister! Liz still looking good as ever, and I imagine it is intentionally designed to shove it in Kahn's face!
There's gay pride in London this weekend for that. Lol.
Gotta watch.. whatever side Ur on..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpxV9xuqLeA

Best laugh Ive had for weeks of all the BS
Quoting cliffedwards
Gotta watch.. whatever side Ur on..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpxV9xuqLeA

Best laugh Ive had for weeks of all the BS
Disgraceful, letting a child use that language. And I wouldn't trust the rest of them around a child either.
Quoting jen101
Disgraceful, letting a child use that language. And I wouldn't trust the rest of them around a child either.
I was actually thinking the same thing. Funny. The crazy left and the impact they have on denigrating decent values of a society! Oh believe me, we see it everyday with an Obama administration, and the lapdog media as their divisive tool!
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my biggest concern about brexit if it happens is that.... maybe Mark and Franc will be back very soon..
my biggest concern about brexit if it happens is that.... maybe Mark and Franc will be back very soon..
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my biggest concern about brexit if it happens is that.... maybe Mark and Franc will be back very soon..
That would be a most excellent outcome. I have long mourned the loss of such currencies. Germany and France would have correctly priced exchange rates rather than the deep discount they both currently enjoy courtesy of the poorer southern european countries.
Quoting jen101
Disgraceful, letting a child use that language. And I wouldn't trust the rest of them around a child either.
I sincerely hope it does not speak to represent the morals of the remain campaign. Inappropriate for a child to be involved in such a video.
Now call it what you like be it good versus evil or divine intervention, but there is some evidence that Brexit might be the case despite the latest polls. Last night London had just about the worst thunderstorms in decades and consequent flooding, keeping many awake with further heavy rain today and travel disruptions. And right in the middle of Ramadan just after the summer solstice, lol. That was why Khan was so snappy at Wembley.

Take a look at GU weekly chart. Do you see a bearish ABCD pattern? By my broker A to B is 933.6 pips and C to D is 934 pips! I would say the pattern is complete. We're leaving
I thought Khan was looking a little peaky. Here is to storms and divine intervention
I particularly enjoyed the pictures of lightning striking the city and canary wharf. I wondered briefly if it might just be a judgement from on high and then dismissed the thought...
Fxck those liars. Nothing happen they promise? Lead by only 3,207, see how pounds fall, see how Footsie fall now? 1.50 to 1.43, come on, let leave win, let them know how big mistake they have done by believing those liars. Watch BBC now, Live fxcking them by host they are big liars. (By the way, only OTC can look how FTSE crashing now).

377 more to go, I don't know how to continue watching. Already start going to post 2008 crash.
1.4 on pound, 12% fall from high on Footsie. Nice, nothing happen from those liars. Still far to go, let's see how much more it will depreciate/wipeoff if really "Leave" win. Fear-mongering? Scaremongering?
Soros was wrong? 1.34 and London has not even opened!
Indicators always obey Price, not the other way.
Heartbreaking to see Britain leaves. Time to grab money since the outcome in favor to my trading point of view.
Quoting ChinaTraderz
Fxck those liars. Nothing happen they promise? Lead by only 3,207, see how pounds fall, see how Footsie fall now? 1.50 to 1.43, come on, let leave win, let them know how big mistake they have done by believing those liars. Watch BBC now, Live fxcking them by host they are big liars. (By the way, only OTC can look how FTSE crashing now).

377 more to go, I don't know how to continue watching. Already start going to post 2008 crash.
You appear to have been posting and reading for days, yet you haven't understood much at all.
It was not about economic's it was about control from the EU, not wanting to be part of a Federal Europe.
We understand that the economics will be volatile immediately after but the price we are willing to pay to get out.
Quoting gandolf13
You appear to have been posting and reading for days, yet you haven't understood much at all.
It was not about economic's it was about control from the EU, not wanting to be part of a Federal Europe.
We understand that the economics will be volatile immediately after but the price we are willing to pay to get out.
Already past tense now and nothing much more to discuss. Jump to next page now.

In fact deep from my heart, I feel so sad now even thought I did profit from my oil hedging.
Jen, Devauxt, nbfx, nintrader, cecakrowo, Gandolf13! Newtonscash! You people are the best! I would go to war with you any day! CONGRATS ON A HARD FOUGHT VICTORY! Tonight you are all invited in spirit to my place, as I am throwing a party for all people who love freedom and especially to the Brits! Thank you so much for restoring Democracy, common sense, and sanity to inspire the rest of the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Enjoy this! We still have a lot of work to do. First order of business; Toss Cameron the traitor globalist out on his keester into the Thames! Take the Broom and start sweeping!
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Hats down to Soros once again!
His prediction that Brexit's win would be far worse for the cable than his famous $1 billion 1992 Pound trashing was admirable!
Of course he did not know if Brexit would win, but predicted the extent of the bloodbath aftermath in the case of the Brexit's win.
Quoting ThunderHeart
Jen, Devauxt, nbfx, nintrader, cecakrowo, Gandolf13! Newtonscash! You people are the best! I would go to war with you any day! CONGRATS ON A HARD FOUGHT VICTORY! Tonight you are all invited in spirit to my place, as I am throwing a party for all people who love freedom and especially to the Brits! Thank you so much for restoring Democracy, common sense, and sanity to inspire the rest of the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Enjoy this! We still have a lot of work to do. First order of business; Toss Cameron the traitor globalist out on his keester...
WOW!!! I can't believe it. I went to bed last night thinking it was lost as turnout was high and Nigel had conceded defeat which I couldn't understand. Remain MP's (Chuka whatever his name is) was gloating and the last YouGov poll was in favour of remain. I laid in bed thinking of leaving the country, then heard Sunderland result!! The north east, bloody heroes!! We knew Sunderland had to have at least a 6 point lead for any chance of Brexit and they had a whopping 22% lead.... Whoaaaa ;D

Icing on the cake is Cameron's resignation this morning. A great day!
Quoting jen101
WOW!!! I can't believe it. I went to bed last night thinking it was lost as turnout was high and Nigel had conceded defeat which I couldn't understand. Remain MP's (Chuka whatever his name is) was gloating and the last YouGov poll was in favour of remain. I laid in bed thinking of leaving the country, then heard Sunderland result!! The north east, bloody heroes!! We knew Sunderland had to have at least a 6 point lead for any chance of Brexit and they had a whopping 22% lead.... Whoaaaa ;D

Icing on the cake is Cameron's resignation this morning....

YES! Thanks to people like you who didn't give up, we have a lot to be thankful for! I got up 5 am my time and had strategically moved my stops in place. I was heavily under water, 2K at least but was fairly confident in the USD especially against the CAD, AUD, NZD, and the S&P 500. I had one position with GBP/JPY (the only GBP position I was trading) I was getting discouraged as well when I read that Nigel Statement about conceding, but it was way too early to tell. I then went back to sleep and had a dream that the news was revealing a BREXIT victory. Also with prayers for your people, I made some "fire water", Cinnamon Apple cider butternut rum last night. Something I do as a ritual for good Karma and it worked! HA! Truly a great day! All this weekend I will be drinking Guinness with fellow Brits here in Singapore. We have quite a few British pubs here as this used to be a British colony so it should be fun! Where ever you are tonight, and I hope you will at least have a sip of champagne as I will symbolically toast to you and everyone else who made this possible! Well done!


Oh and BTW, tomorrow is Spain's vote, so there will probably be a gap after this weekend. I decided to close all my trades early, let the dust settle, reevaluate where everything will be come next week! Have a great weekend Jen!
Quoting ThunderHeart
Jen, Devauxt, nbfx, nintrader, cecakrowo, Gandolf13! Newtonscash! You people are the best! I would go to war with you any day! CONGRATS ON A HARD FOUGHT VICTORY! Tonight you are all invited in spirit to my place, as I am throwing a party for all people who love freedom and especially to the Brits! Thank you so much for restoring Democracy, common sense, and sanity to inspire the rest of the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Enjoy this! We still have a lot of work to do. First order of business; Toss Cameron the traitor globalist out on his keester...
Thank you ThunderHeart
I hoped but didn't believe it could happen against the might of the EU, the worlds financial institutions and worlds political elite.

I sincerely hope the peoples of Europe and the world do not believe the UK voted out of the EU because we are racist and xenophobic, we are not. It was because of our loss of control.
In the UK we vote every 5 years or so for politicians, if we do not like the way they are leading or governing us, we just vote them out. The EU very effectively took away our ability to make our own laws and tied our hands as to what we were allowed to spend our taxes on and even what taxes we could or couldn't set.

It is due to your diverse, individual, wonderful cultures and personalities, learning, living, working and visiting the UK which makes me happy to call myself British. :o)
Quoting ThunderHeart
YES! Thanks to people like you who didn't give up, we have a lot to be thankful for! I got up 5 am my time and had strategically moved my stops in place. I was heavily under water, 2K at least but was fairly confident in the USD especially against the CAD, AUD, NZD, and the S&P 500. I had one position with GBP/JPY (the only GBP position I was trading) I was getting discouraged as well when I read that Nigel Statement about conceding, but it was way too early to tell. I then went back to sleep and had a dream that the news was revealing a BREXIT...
Thank you ThunderHeart, It was great to have the opportunity to debate this momentous vote. I have really appreciated and enjoyed all the support given by you and the guys. I would also like thank everyone who held the opposite view (including barkie).
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