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  • It's no joke – the robots will really take over this time

    From theguardian.com

    Not often do you hear a Newsnight presenter using an arcane mathematical term, but last week was an exception. The culprit was David Grossman, who made an excellent film for Newsnight about the threat to employment from advanced robotics. In the course of this, he made the standard pilgrimage to MIT to interview Erik Brynjolfsson and Andrew McAfee, who have made much of the running in this area with a number of books, of which the most recent is The Second Machine Age. Their argument, said Grossman, was that our society has reached an "inflection point", a concept beloved of those who studied differential calculus ... (full story)

It's just a matter of time before robots owned by a few take most jobs away from the many.
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
Ahhhh...but the flip side? Think Star Trek. Where we'll have food replicators for an endless free supply, transporters for instant free travel anywhere, medical devices that can heal anything for free, and robot slaves to take care of any menial labor tasks still required.

At that point, who needs a job? ... lol
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
interesting times
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Humans still have to build and program these bots. Think outside the box people...
Quoting Guest
Humans still have to build and program these bots. Think outside the box people...
Until bots are able to programme and make new bots.
This was a point alluded to in the article re programming capabilities.
Come with me if you want to live....
Hmmmm....,

What to do with all these displaced people....

I mean, it would be such a financial burden on the Govt and ultimately the rest of those still earning a wage.

I'm not going there AJ

lol...
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Ill-b-back
Until bots are able to programme and make new bots.
This was a point alluded to in the article re programming capabilities.
Yep, and we already have machines building machines and software writing new software. Not exactly "do away with humans" yet but, stepping ever closer...lol

Quoting Ill-b-back
Hmmmm....,

What to do with all these displaced people....
Soylent green?
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
A matter of time???? LOL!

Seems nobody has looked inside a factory lately to see how our cars, computers, phones, etc, are made.

Guest 52.15........ It takes one person to program a robot (aka computer with motors) to do the jobs of hundreds of people. Work out the maths!

Happy Trading!
I, for one, would like to welcome our alien overlords...
Quoting albchr
Yep, and we already have machines building machines and software writing new software. Not exactly "do away with humans" yet but, stepping ever closer...lol



Soylent green?
Plankton farms it is then.
We need to find ourselves in one of those apartments for the rich.

Who needs people lol..

We just got to think outside the box

DOH!!
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Ill-b-back
Plankton farms it is then.
We need to find ourselves in one of those apartments for the rich.

Who needs people lol..

We just got to think outside the box

DOH!!
I routinely think outside the box. The dam box just keeps getting bigger!

Hope all is well with the new addition brother.
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
Quoting albchr
I routinely think outside the box. The dam box just keeps getting bigger!
Mines getting smaller, makes my job of thinking outside it much easier lol...
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Ill-b-back
Mines getting smaller, makes my job of thinking outside it much easier lol...
That's a good thing. Every little bit helps
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
Quoting albchr
Soylent green?
Yummy!!
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
Quoting Ill-b-back
Hmmmm....,

What to do with all these displaced people....
Some human species will be preserved at zoos to entertain robots.

No clue what the rest will do given that robots will be able to do everything.
Quoting grin
No clue what the rest will do given that robots will be able to do everything.
Why...clean up after the humans in the zoo of course. We wouldn't expect the robots to do that now would we?
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
Quoting vox dei
Yummy!!
I hear it's not bad with salsa...
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
Quoting albchr
I hear it's not bad with salsa...
"We are we eat" are we not?
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
Quoting vox dei
"We are we eat" are we not?
I sure hope not. Or tomorrow I'll wake up an Italian hoagie ...
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
But there is huge downside to all of the robots replacing us, well the tax revenues would decline dramatically and then what?????
Quoting albchr
I sure hope not. Or tomorrow I'll wake up an Italian hoagie ...
Whenever you meet a robot hit it hard with a baseball bat. That's the only way to be sure

Quoting liberty458
But there is huge downside to all of the robots replacing us, well the tax revenues would decline dramatically and then what?????
Not to mention who would be able to purchase all the goods/services created by the robots without having a job for income.
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
Hello Trout,

Isn't your statement of "interesting times" part of an old Chinese curse? May you live in interesting times?

Puritan
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when I did my technical training in forex, indices, and commodities, about 10 years ago, I always wondered why there were some computer geeks (that knew stuff all about trading) on the courses. Of course I know why now. HFT is a curse to me. I specialise in one highly volatile and little known stock index (have you seen a 280 point spike inside 2 minutes on the instrument that you trade recently?). But wait now, I have worked out their algo. only problem left is that I often miss entries by one or two seconds. I honestly believe that the marketmaker is in cahoots with the algo guys. trade safe
talk nicely about robots, they will hire u one day.
Quoting acidguy
talk nicely about robots, they will hire u one day.
...you better believe it..
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life!
I say relax folks. First we have to go through the Cyborg stage (mixture of human and machine). Once we start having micro chips instead of children, THEN it will be full on robots!
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
Check this out.....

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27125728
Quoting Taffy
Check this out.....

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27125728
I have believed for some time that the machines will rise. The cause will be entirely accidental. The only solution is to stop now, ...like that is ever going to happen! Mankind is doomed, the only unknown is the final method.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life!
This news is somewhat out of date for me. When I was in college, I always imagined that there would be a day that computers could read my mind and then did it.

So that I didn't have to write any programs, but computers did what was in my mind. A kind of artificial intelligent and telepathy.

Writing programs was tedious at that time with 8086 processor and 8087 math co processor. The clock was at 1MHz. That's right 1000 times slower than 1 GHz processor.

Today with turbo fast processors, the sky is the limit.
...therefore you have seen the pathetic progress in computing, the lack of attention to performance and detail all in the interests of selling. The ghastly perpetual patching of operating systems all because the job was not done properly in the first place. Moore's law should be re-written to state that four-times the processing power is necessary to do twice as much useful work...

In the link from Taffy the video clip shows a computer with speech processing which is interpreting and answering questions. A machine that is capable of learning. A small step then to a machine which can teach, and could therefore teach other machines....
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life!
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  • Posted: Apr 27, 2014 5:05pm
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