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    German Chancellor Angela Merkel said in a speech in parliament that EU leaders would signal their readiness to ramp up punitive measures against Russia, including politically sensitive economic sanctions, at a summit starting on Thursday. "The EU summit today and tomorrow will make clear that we are ready at any time to introduce phase-3 measures if there is a worsening of the situation," Merkel said. She added that the Group of Eight format, which includes Russia, was effectively dead so long as the diplomatic showdown with Moscow continued. Russia has the presidency of the G8 and had been scheduled to hold a ... (full story)

Where does Angela get most of her oil? Just asking.
"if needed" puts everything into perspective...Russia is a big supplier of energy to EU...she will get away with that
And GAS....
all are big .........................mouth.......
Say something meaningful or Silence!!
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Angela will get Oil and Gas from where then
Euro will crash
Quoting Russell412
Where does Angela get most of her oil? Just asking.
Quoting Greener
"if needed" puts everything into perspective...Russia is a big supplier of energy to EU...she will get away with that
Quoting MidasFG
And GAS....
Ohhh yeah, for the sake of your stomach forgive the Russians
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/germany-to-play-central-but-expensive-role-in-sanctions-against-russia-a-959019.html
Quoting highway
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-959019.html
Well done mutti
Hit the Russians
just a lip service to the US. If people want to be a part of Russia (with or without the presence of any force or intl observers) let them be and move on. Better tell Draghi he can start European QE to tackle deflation threats.
stop barking lolz ...wooh look at the world map ... compare Russia to German like a joke
Quoting ozboy
stop barking lolz ...wooh look at the world map ... compare Russia to German like a joke
size matters...
simplistic thinking
Quoting Groovy
just a lip service to the US. If people want to be a part of Russia (with or without the presence of any force or intl observers) let them be and move on. Better tell Draghi he can start European QE to tackle deflation threats.
I want to be part of the USA shall I take my house and become part of USA? Russia took territories, natural reserves, actives, the people were just there, why idiots can't understand this.
she's becoming JOKE seems the pollies are trying to take peoples minds of their own county's problems
people leave, but this thread will go on for ever
Quoting spike00spieg
I want to be part of the USA shall I take my house and become part of USA? Russia took territories, natural reserves, actives, the people were just there, why idiots can't understand this.
don't think that EU is able to do anything here. Probably US and UK are the only two countries that can show their muscles but I don't think there's too much interest there.
Quoting spike00spieg
I want to be part of the USA shall I take my house and become part of USA? Russia took territories, natural reserves, actives, the people were just there, why idiots can't understand this.
Spikey, if it comes to just your household then you vote with your feet. When we talk regions, states, provices, then it's a matter of referendum. If Quebec clocks up over 50% of votes than yes they'll become independent from Canada. Emotions on the side, if a vast majority wants to see themselves as part of Russia what would Spikey from some Spiegel land have a problem? It's in the hands of the people that live there.
Quoting spike00spieg
I want to be part of the USA shall I take my house and become part of USA? Russia took territories, natural reserves, actives, the people were just there, why idiots can't understand this.
Spikey, reading your 'actives' you reminded me of 'zis is German coast guard, what are you sinking about?'. Check it out, it's about Spiegel boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR0lWICH3rY
time to sell EUR again?
Come tomorrow, I'll wake up new
Quoting gsbharaj
time to sell EUR again?
What you not already in?

Shorted EU @ W1 resistance 1.3956 for initial bounce ROFL
in the end, Russia will be bent to Merkel,say who dare make rebellion against German same like they rebel against whole europe
Quoting Groovy
Spikey, if it comes to just your household then you vote with your feet. When we talk regions, states, provices, then it's a matter of referendum. If Quebec clocks up over 50% of votes than yes they'll become independent from Canada. Emotions on the side, if a vast majority wants to see themselves as part of Russia what would Spikey from some Spiegel land have a problem? It's in the hands of the people that live there.
People cant take they belongings and move to Russia but territories can be gained by war/diplomacy and Russia is doing a war based on intimidation. Think about the same situation without Russia's army and tell me if this is not an aggression and hostile takeover?
It's only an empty threat. The west can't afford to start a war at the moment
Quoting ozboy
stop barking lolz ...wooh look at the world map ... compare Russia to German like a joke
Most of Russia is wasteland ... about 70% of it
Quoting spike00spieg
I want to be part of the USA shall I take my house and become part of USA? Russia took territories, natural reserves, actives, the people were just there, why idiots can't understand this.
+1
In this game of Chess, the EU has a slight upper hand for the moment. Considering that winter is almost over, the dependance on Gas is much lesser, hence the hard talk. Had this happened in early Oct/Nov things would have been different.

All said and done, most of the talk from EU so far has been just lip service just the way the first set of sanctions (travel bans and asset freeze) has been.
No they don't have any hand to play in this game of high stakes poker, even if its a bluff we in the EU and wider Europe have a lot more to lose than Russia. Putin and his cabinet as always have played a blinder. They've won already the west knows it and can now only save a bit of face.


Quoting jw1981
In this game of Chess, the EU has a slight upper hand for the moment. Considering that winter is almost over, the dependance on Gas is much lesser, hence the hard talk. Had this happened in early Oct/Nov things would have been different.

All said and done, most of the talk from EU so far has been just lip service just the way the first set of sanctions (travel bans and asset freeze) has been.
"The meek shall inherit the earth.." Yeah right, good luck with that shit..
Wtf? War? No winner there. File in never gonna happen.

Quoting grandia
It's only an empty threat. The west can't afford to start a war at the moment
"The meek shall inherit the earth.." Yeah right, good luck with that shit..
War ? Maybe not in the moment.
Over the next 5 years there will be a war.
Russia is not strong.
No one will trust Russia in the future.
Russia has harmed himself.
No one will invest more in Russia. No one !
They are at peace now. They just need to hug each other. Happy ending.
Quoting mvp77
Russia is not strong.
No one will trust Russia in the future.
Russia has harmed himself.
No one will invest more in Russia. No one !
The number of bottles of gas used in China out number the population of EU and US together numerous times.
Don't tell me these gas come from EU or US.
In business you can make money under any crisis conditions.
If Wallmarkt disappear, many smaller companies will appear and earn better. Russia has things the Chinese needs daily plus minerals etc. China is a bigger market than EU and US combine together for the basic things. And Chinese has a better sense when it comes to accumulating money. . Russia is thus good investment ground and a place for good bargains without the EU and US. When us eu come back later, the best lot won't be there any more.

https://sites.google.com/a/alaska.edu/far-eastern-borderlands/home/primore/cross-border-trade/russian---chinese-border-crossing

Russian gas, oil, herbs and weapons can exchange a lot of goods.
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cut off Russian food supplies. starve them out.

"Russia increases food imports dramatically"

http://www.eas-cis.com/en/latest-news/200/russia-increases-food-imports-dramatically
Quoting highway
The number of bottles of gas used in China out number the population of EU and US together numerous times.
Don't tell me these gas come from EU or US.
In business you can make money under any crisis conditions.
If Wallmarkt disappear, many smaller companies will appear and earn better. Russia has things the Chinese needs daily plus minerals etc. China is a bigger market than EU and US combine together for the basic things. And Chinese has a better sense when it comes to accumulating money. . Russia is thus good investment ground and a place...

Russia has nothing, I repeat it over again for you, Russia has nothing. We could survive to the need also without gas and oil from Russia for a while. Russia does not survive one month without our money.

We can renounce Russia. Russia cannot renounce us. THIS is the difference! And Putin will soon feel this.

Then we make just massively Fracking! This is also the principal reason of the USA for Fracking! Independence!
Quoting mvp77
russia has nothing, i repeat it over again for you, russia has nothing. We could survive to the need also without gas and oil from russia for a while. Russia does not survive one month without our money.

We can renounce russia. Russia cannot renounce us. This is the difference! And putin will soon feel this.

Then we make just massively fracking! This is also the principal reason of the usa for fracking! Independence!
in one month we will see if russia has nothing or rather you have nothing in your brain>
Quoting mvp77
Russia has nothing, I repeat it over again for you, Russia has nothing. We could survive to the need also without gas and oil from Russia for a while. Russia does not survive one month without our money.

We can renounce Russia. Russia cannot renounce us. THIS is the difference! And Putin will soon feel this.

Then we make just massively Fracking! This is also the principal reason of the USA for Fracking! Independence!
Winter is over, so you need less gas and oil for the next 6 months! Let's see if Russia can survive for 6 months.
Remember the Olympics? Russia is a fucking international joke.
Quoting ladder
Winter is over, so you need less gas and oil for the next 6 months! Let's see if Russia can survive for 6 months.
Yeah because gas and oil is only used by households lol
Think!
All kinds of companies using gas and oil to produce things etc. etc. etc.
Russia can survive without money from us but we can`t without their gas. Mrs Merkel with her big knife in one pocket and clear hand in second is great hypocrite. On one front shes making big buisness with russia gas companies building infrastructure etc. and on other front shes telling us about sanctions. Either she is schizofrenic or she is lying...... She is a big hypocrite and at least she could stfup regarding Ukraine. Germany and Russia making big deals behind courtains f whole eurozone in azz. That is the truth. As usual. She don`t have any move against Putin and she knows it. USA is to far away and eastern europe isn`t their priority. So all in all Ukraine is left on its own. It is even pretty fair since they always been close to russians, now they will watch how good their friends are/were

Its only my opinion. Too bad that ordinary people suffer for this regardless nationality, skin color, eye color, hair style, shoe nr etc....
Russia is a backwards nation
Quoting Pipocrates
Remember the Olympics? Russia is a fucking international joke.
I remember the Olympics. What about it?
I found a penny today. That's +100 pips for me.
NATO should just invade Russia and get it over with, shouldn't take more than a few weeks.
europe should grow some balls, instead of waiting for america like a bitch
Merkel thinks punishing the whole EU is just not enough...
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
Quoting Brendan777
NATO should just invade Russia and get it over with, shouldn't take more than a few weeks.
U never learn what history teaches,at all. Google what hitler thought before war,same with napoleon.

But the real thihg is that most russians don"t care about sanctions or no sanctions,'cause for a long time (centuries) our people live apart from government,the only thing unites us is when agressor comes our way.The real problems will be only for 5-10 % of our people,those leaches on our backs. We don't care.But if anyone tries to invade our land will loose.We learned that the hard way from mongolian igo.it's all genetic memory.
Nicely done with the sub human intelligence contributions.


Quoting Brendan777
NATO should just invade Russia and get it over with, shouldn't take more than a few weeks.
"The meek shall inherit the earth.." Yeah right, good luck with that shit..
Once again the EWEropeans will wait for the americans to save them...
and of course the americans will be horribly blamed for it as always.
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