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    Operating conditions improve modestly in September. Key points  Flash China Manufacturing PMI™ at 51.2 (50.1 in August). Six-month high.  Flash China Manufacturing Output Index at 51.1 (50.9 in August). Five-month high. Data collected 12–19 September 2013. Commenting on the Flash China Manufacturing PMI survey, Hongbin Qu, Chief Economist, China & CoHead of Asian Economic Research at HSBC said: “The HSBC Flash China Manufacturing PMI rose to a six-month high in September, adding further evidence to China’s ongoing growth rebound. The firmer footing was supported by simultaneous improvements of ... (full story)

LOL....another nail in the coffin of the 'doom and gloomers' re China, like bloomberg.propaganda.......
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^china is bust, not sure what you are on about...Here have a look:

real estate bubble galore, slow worldwide growth create a lack of demand (hurts their export), no real middle class to pick up the debt that has accumulated from companies inflating balance sheets borrowing more money from banks than DEMAND can keep up with, income disparity is as big there as almost anywhere between the wealthy and the LARGE number of poor...China IS and will be a victim of its own past success...
Well we must take it as it may. It's not contracting, but it's not a blowout. EZ are posting above-50 PMIs, and I think they are not as strong as some say.

Apples to kumquats, but China is coming off three decades of double-digit growth. Couple years of sub-10% growth is disappointing in the market's eye.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
Quoting Pip Anon
Well we must take it as it may. It's not contracting, but it's not a blowout. EZ are posting above-50 PMIs, and I think they are not as strong as some say.

Apples to kumquats, but China is coming off three decades of double-digit growth. Couple years of sub-10% growth is disappointing in the market's eye.
Funny.
Funny, sad, fascinating, interesting, appalling, appealing, crazy, insane, horrendous, amazing.... describe it as you may it's true. PMI comes in sub-50 instead of 51 and we'd be looking at red numbers at the moment.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
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Good print for the Aussie. I still think strong dollar is the play. Potential set up for a fade here if you have the balls.
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stock market seems to have bought the news

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=BHP.AX
.....According to the FXstreet.com trend index, the pair is strongly bearish on one-hour timeframe analysis.

What do you think??
Quoting Pip Anon
Well we must take it as it may. It's not contracting, but it's not a blowout. EZ are posting above-50 PMIs, and I think they are not as strong as some say.

Apples to kumquats, but China is coming off three decades of double-digit growth. Couple years of sub-10% growth is disappointing in the market's eye.
I'm already short NZD/USD and will add on any strength......

AUD looks weak ( and has looked weak for several days ) here.

Risk rolls over "sloooooowly" and USD moves up.

It's a grind here for sure.....
I'm short humanity, and long interplanetary travel. Forexkong.kom
Pip A 's got it......a print under 50 is an "entirely different matter".

This "print" keeps the boat afloat....for now.
I'm short humanity, and long interplanetary travel. Forexkong.kom
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^china is bust, not sure what you are on about...Here have a look:

real estate bubble galore, slow worldwide growth create a lack of demand (hurts their export), no real middle class to pick up the debt that has accumulated from companies inflating balance sheets borrowing more money from banks than DEMAND can keep up with, income disparity is as big there as almost anywhere between the wealthy and the LARGE number of poor...China IS and will be a victim of its own past success...
LOL...another sucker to the propaganda...LOL
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See, the funny thing real jumper cannot figure out is he believe the propaganda. The propaganda that China MUST and HAS to grow.

Because when you get down to the skinny, the market doesn't give a shite what the "real" numbers are, real or fake.

The market goes up when it beats previous number, goes down when it doesn't. The reason why is notwithstanding. Nobody cares.

The market is meant to be traded.

It's like saying US equities deserves to be where it is because of solid fundamentals. No, it's because the Fed is piling in money. You buy, when they stop you sell.

China will continue to pile into the same infrastructure plays, and officials will continue to grow specific high-yielding sectors for incentives until it no longer works.

It works, you buy. It doesn't anymore, you sell. Feck, quite trying to make it complicated with "propaganda" scheme.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
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I'm already short NZD/USD and will add on any strength......

AUD looks weak ( and has looked weak for several days ) here.

Risk rolls over "sloooooowly" and USD moves up.

It's a grind here for sure.....
will look to short. may be nice opportunities on non-usd crosses for volatility
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
China does not...and never has...neither will it EVER....open it's books to show it's true economoic situation. China didn't get to be the number 2 economy in the world (and it will be number 1 in the not too distant future), by 1) opening it's books to the west or 2) by being bullies and materialistic muppets.

Bloomberg.propaganda, CNBC.propaganda all all other american analysts are working from figures supplied by who????....LOL.....and you muppets buy into it

China is a CLOSED shop. End of.
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Holy shite. I just told you I didn't care about the numbers. They could be growing 76% or -1,000% and could give two shites either way.

You are the one that keeps brining "propaganda" up.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
I don't care what you say....and I never have done. SOD OFF
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Quoting Pip Anon
Holy shite. I just told you I didn't care about the numbers. They could be growing 76% or -1,000% and could give two shites either way.

You are the one that keeps brining "propaganda" up.

Pip,


Id like to request that you stop upsetting so many people. You are bringing in far too much reality for one day. At this point, people may actually assume that you care more about price action than news, and then you would be an outcast on Forex Factory. People would talk behind your back and before you know it people in your own neighborhood would start rumors, saying you don't even watch CNBC. Your rep would be shot.
thoughts on oil outlook for today anyone plz ??
Quoting Silat50
Pip,


Id like to request that you stop upsetting so many people. You are bringing in far too much reality for one day. At this point, people may actually assume that you care more about price action than news, and then you would be an outcast on Forex Factory. People would talk behind your back and before you know it people in your own neighborhood would start rumors, saying you don't even watch CNBC. Your rep would be shot.
Lol, Silat, let it be as it may. I can't even stand CNBC or Bloomberg. It went from watching, to background noise, to nothing. Can't stand it.

Let's also face that market's care about expectations, primarily, in regards to news. They never really care about the "hidden" things behind the veil until they are brought to the sunshine. The market reacts, and than adjusts.

News is merely catalysts for a trade. Analyze fundamentally, trade technically is what I believe.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
Closure, and if you were to get an inkling as to its direction, what help would that do you here in forex where the price could very well already be baked in...or not.....or when draghni speaks it sets the entire forex into chaos as he usually does for some ridiculous reason. So if I tell you oil will be 80 cents higher by noon today, how do we make money?
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Quoting Silat50
Pip,


Id like to request that you stop upsetting so many people. You are bringing in far too much reality for one day. At this point, people may actually assume that you care more about price action than news, and then you would be an outcast on Forex Factory. People would talk behind your back and before you know it people in your own neighborhood would start rumors, saying you don't even watch CNBC. Your rep would be shot.
Who cares about the news on CNBC I am a loadedgun fan and he has proved that news is noise. We all know that here on FF.
dude, what you said is soooo obvious, thats why its a riot. NOBODY CARES WHAT CNBC SAYS. And im just running with the very true comments pip anon made about why are people getting so emotional about pending news? Your both right. Its worthless if we cant make money from it and we cant make money without big or at least predictable surges in price action. Sorry dude, Im from NY. mY SARCASTIC SENSE OF HUMOR MIGHT HAVE GONE OVER THE TOP, but its really just adding humor to a boring fu&%KIng market that just dont want to commit even for 2 days in a row all of a sudden. I hope when dragh speaks he sends us into orbit, one way or another. Problem is I fall asleep by the time he comes on.

CNBC......I haven't put that on with THE exception of the flash crash of like 3 yrs ago since God was a baby. lETS GO BOYS! SOMEONE CALL UP THE FOREX TIMES AND SPREAD A RUMOR OR SOMETHING. lET SOMETHING MOVE FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. oK, OK, LET SOMETHING MOVE FOR" MY" SAKE! LOL

aND BTW GUYS.....I see 9450 as having the 1.618 and 3 other fibs converging for firce resistance on the hrly. We go 20-30 pips over that and it will probably take till at least 8:30am, we might have a double or triple here. Im a daily candle player anyway....but when i see 3 fib bars all in confluence...watch out!!!!!! And I use a sophisiticated program that combines both 60m and daily fibs onto one chart so you guys might not get it. Its just another thing to look at. Im no king of the hill.

BREAK UPWARD OF 9450 AND ITS PARTY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quoting Silat50
Closure, and if you were to get an inkling as to its direction, what help would that do you here in forex where the price could very well already be baked in...or not.....or when draghni speaks it sets the entire forex into chaos as he usually does for some ridiculous reason. So if I tell you oil will be 80 cents higher by noon today, how do we make money?
we make money with 80 cents before Draghi speaks which is exactly wt i just did, thanx for the oily thoughts
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