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  • Lord Rothschild takes £130m bet against the euro

    From telegraph.co.uk

    Lord Rothschild has taken a near-£130m bet against the euro as fears continue to grow that the single currency will break up. The member of the banking dynasty has taken the position through RIT Capital Partners, the £1.9bn investment trust of which he is executive chairman. The fact that the former investment banker, a senior member of the Rothschild family, has taken such a view will be seen as a further negative for the currency. The latest omen follows news in The Daily Telegraph late last week that the government of Finland is already preparing for the euro’s break-up. RIT, which Lord Rothschild has led ... (full story)

They bring it (Euro) up...
Bring suckers in,. And
They slam it down...let the suckers bleed to dead..

What an evil.. illumantis..
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so there comes a strong move against draghi ? whatever it takes as said by him . funny ecb comments
I'd love it for the euro rally and this pompous fuck lost his fortune. The story is probably bull shit to suck in the public. There's money to be made up there's money to be made down.
In fact he must be buying.
In the longer term the statistics state that all currency unions eventually come to an end. Odds are 100% on an EU breakup if you look over data of currency unions in the past. None have ever survived! LoL!!! I doubt if his bet will pay off big for a year or two... But, according to my statistical odds analysis... At some point the odds are it will pay out big for him.

The only question is when? Rothschild can hold position for a very long time. He won't care about little 500-1000 pip sucker rallies...
Scary but clearly not the same charts we are looking at.
£130m for these guys is like £0.01 for a normal guy, this news is somehow weird
Quoting tunera
£130m for these guys is like £0.01 for a normal guy, this news is somehow weird
I agree with the news being weird - truly out of place. I read elsewhere Soros and some other rich person increased their positions as well (can't recall the direction though) but since it did not make a mark probably up (but do not quote me).
WOW! That's nearly 15% of the trust's capital!
Now I've to bet the farm...
Who cares - it has the same affect of throwing a cupful of water into the Atlantic.
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Just remember, any loss that his fund makes is highly likely to prove tax deductible and from worldwide holdings it may be tax deductible in several tax jurisdictions simultaneously. Banksters have the remarkable ability to get politicians to loot the taxpayer to make good their losses.
Quoting Porkpie
I'd love it for the euro rally and this pompous fuck lost his fortune. The story is probably bull shit to suck in the public. There's money to be made up there's money to be made down.

Those guys never lose money. Question is, is it true about that short ?
Quoting moaf
Those guys never lose money. Question is, is it true about that short ?
It can be true even if it's for just 10 pips TP.
then Draghi won't let them go, he needs each m he can suck.
138 million is peanuts for the Rothchilds. That position is just a propaganda position. Most likely EUR is not going down.
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the bet might be bigger than the published version...
Quoting moaf
Those guys never lose money. Question is, is it true about that short ?
True...these guys know what coming down the pike....
Quoting Timetraveler
It can be true even if it's for just 10 pips TP.
It's RIT, they are not used to take 10 pips, rather 10 figures. They are buying and wait till TP. Anather thing is that they can wait year for this, and next month we can retest 1.3
All In All there is one direction for EUR.
Quoting Binyamin
138 million is peanuts for the Rothchilds. That position is just a propaganda position. Most likely EUR is not going down.
That's true. But it's news from Rothshild not Goldman Sachs. They have enough money to lose. What they can't lose is the legend of Rothshild Family. I don't think so they want to cheat the retails. If they want, they can do this without involving familly name.
Quoting moaf
Those guys never lose money. Question is, is it true about that short ?
It's the same thing as saying the Telegraph never prints a false story - Every single body in this business lose money not once or twice but several times over. No one should ever run scared of a name - I say they are more likely than anything else to lose money - at least if the parameters of their bet is defined around the next monthly bar. Hell the Euro has bottomed and it don't take much to see that.
Well said Moaf, the legend, of Amschel, making a fortune on gold trading by arbing Paris vs. London prices using pigeon post. One of the most entertaining stories in the history of banking.

The article never said the Rothschilds had a short position. They probably have a portfolio of nifty derivatives (we could say, financial weapons of mass destruction) and their net euro denominated exposure is £130 m. We all know the banks' negotiating abilities, you can bet your bitty they will get out in profit even if euro would rally in the future.
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not a big enough bet for the rothschilds to mean anything, this news is trying to lead the public
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if the news is true...i would not be surprised if euro fall below parity in one year period....
These stories always come out well after the big move is over.... a few months ago, big names were buying gold.... after it topped.

If Rothschild was making a serious bet on a direction for Euro they certainly wouldn't be publishing it here.
Besides... 130M ?? Post up a few yards if you want to make the headlines.

He probably just bought Gold with the money and called it a short.
it is time to go long on euro
The big secret is to commit your assets in just 3 trades-accounts.

1) 15% on a single sort trade like they do from 1.2330. Account's risk-stop loss at most 500 pips if it goes north and reward is somewhere 1.18 - 1.16 like charts say.
2) 35% on a single buy from 1.2250 aiming 1.2750 at most and SL anywhere before 1.075 where account blows
3) Hold 50% to throw it for those trend guaranteed 10-100-1000+ pips below 1.20 or after a stop loss hit to sort again.

Do it and go for vacations, find a new girl, get a life, stop whining for animal traps and ranges, and let Rothschild and market do the rest.
May be I got the wrong mentality -but I came into this game to grow as big as anyone has ever gotten to be in it. I never forget the lines of a song "the biggest man you ever did see was once a baby". I do not hero worship and believe with evidence and determination - I am on my way. I only started late that's all.
Everyone , by now, knows where EURUSD is going in terms of up or down, except those who doesn't know it yet...
The market will be in consolidation state due to conflicted news and traders sentiment .
Quoting Susaif
The market will be in consolidation state due to conflicted news and traders sentiment .
Is this a code to decipher or something? Enlighten me with what you call consolidation state, conflicted news, and trader sentiment. Oh, well, whatever they are, just say it, up or down. simple makes easy.
Quoting frx_trader
... just say it, up or down. simple makes easy.

Market offer buy /sell signal service but charge for it....Fund your account and Market will take care of it very respectfully...
another rumors....again, hahah...
Quoting Susaif
The market will be in consolidation state due to conflicted news and traders sentiment .
Agreed....bearish and bullish news coming out simultaneously....
Maybe we have The Third World War right now. The war between Jewish banks and German government.

Jews want to have power in Europe and use bond interests as tool in order to achieve this. Germany strong economy is also big power tool that allows Germany to dominate other countries in Europe.

The question is. Who will win?
There's a scam hidden somewhere in his words.
Quoting moaf
Those guys never lose money. Question is, is it true about that short ?
So much time in the fall and right now that seems to consolidation appears this news?? Someone forgot to close positions or coming over a cut in the interest rate!
His parents must have been extremely optimistic when they named him.
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I ll just stick to price action it doesn't lie
And if there's a killer spike lets hope i am not against it lol
Quoting mr.marketz
His parents must have been extremely optimistic when they named him.
Hahaha... I think his parents named him Jacob. He just "is" a lord
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WOW what a history of the Rothschild family but I don't buy this news. People like them will never disclose their positions. And for a family of this stature 130m pound is nothing.
130m of 1:100 leverage maybe? Even then it still won't mean a thing to them. Personally i believe they own all the money in the world and now they want power..But on short term view, eurusd is going down
Quoting Supertrader9
130m of 1:100 leverage maybe?
ok - that would then be a 13 yard position, but no one gets 100:1 on institutional trade sizes. It's just a 130M position which is a few pips at best and rumor news at 'even better'.

Euro bottomed at just above 1.20... now consolidating
Rothschild is one of the families owning all the Central Banks (= printing money out of thin air and lending it for big interests to all the idiots born in fear and living in fear without one idea of selfesteem and ready to give all their energy and work and money to these gangsters).
So, if this 130m pound bet is true, that means: old Lord is bored and want to play.
Yoda in a tie. 'euro rise not it will'
Here's a reality check on how the markets work - (just reading the first page).
http://www.marketskillbuilder.com/natfinmk.htm I wonder if anyone can dispute this.
Looks like the incredibly low level of the VIX is kicking in - but in a strangely disjointed way - not the way one would imagine it would play out especially at this time - but then it is a mathematically chaotic system - the markets.
Rothschild family made fortune in stocks with rumors in the past on the wars. stay careful
"hey, I'm a mega billionaire and I will sell 160 million, but nobody knows that after I will buy the triple on the quiet, hihi"
As I said yesterday VIAGRA effect over weekend play significant role on trading on Monday...For some individuals besides Black Friday will be or it is already Black Monday....


Anyway, fund your account on time...
Planning is critical to successful trades - but important to planning is having the tools and skills to analyze the market critically and then base your subsequent actions on dynamic reading of the market around the base case - here's an example of how I saw the market early in the week - http://www.forexfactory.com/news.php...13#post5941033. Seems to be playing out well with retooling now completed. Of course the other aspect is to have a contingency backup should things not pan out.

PS: The point here is simply to minimize distracting items like the news item in question when it is clear that it has no lasting impact on overall play - especially if you are not a day trader and hold longer term aspirations.
Quoting Porkpie
I'd love it for the euro rally and this pompous fuck lost his fortune. The story is probably bull shit to suck in the public. There's money to be made up there's money to be made down.
130mm is like pennies to them....
Quoting Binyamin
138 million is peanuts for the Rothchilds. That position is just a propaganda position. Most likely EUR is not going down.
I agree.
When was the last time Rothschild advertised their traded position?
If that is even true.
One hand is betting £130m against EUR, and the other hand is betting ten times more against USD
made much of his fortune at the end of the Napoleonic wars, when they had foreknowledge of the victory of England and launched a market rumor that Napoleon had won the war. With this purse fell almost to zero, and the Rothschilds bought virtually the entire economy of England. When he was given the real news - that England had won the war - the Rothschilds emerged as the richest family in Europe.
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Here is the truth, nothing but the truth...EUR will eventually complete its cycle down to 1.1xxxx. When?...this I can't tell or guess, but play safe. Go long, and cut any profit (no matter how small it is), punting in mind that the headwinds are towards sought! Good Luck for all!
Soros capital is moving Gold up and Euro is following, Rothschild will sell Euro from higher high's - sickening market manipulation, as allways by BIG Money, nothing else!
Quoting Sarkel
I agree.
When was the last time Rothschild advertised their traded position?
If that is even true.
One hand is betting £130m against EUR, and the other hand is betting ten times more against USD
agree with you
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