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  • Ukraine Strikes on Russia With US Missiles Could Lead to World War, Russian Lawmakers Say

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    Washington's decision to let Kyiv strike deep into Russia with long-range U.S. missiles escalates the conflict in Ukraine and could lead to World War Three, senior Russian lawmakers said on Sunday. Two U.S. officials and a source familiar with the decision revealed the significant reversal of Washington's policy in the Ukraine-Russia conflict earlier on Sunday. "The West has decided on such a level of escalation that it could end with the Ukrainian statehood in complete ruins by morning," Andrei Klishas, a senior member of the Federation Council, Russia's upper chamber of parliament, said on the Telegram messaging ... (full story)

Some of us have been saying for a long time now: There are people out there who hate Trump to such a degree that literally nothing is off the table. Of course they continued to lie about him (and us) 24/7 for years, but they also tried and failed to get him off the ballots, they failed to put him in jail, so then they took it to what seemed to be the ultimate level... literally trying to kill the man (at least twice). But that's NOT their last resort. What IS is what we might be seeing now: Leave Trump with such a mess that he'll be able to accomplish nothing. At first I thought that would be some kind of forced economic collapse, hard recession at a minimum. But now it looks like even that wasn't being imaginative enough... now it looks like the scumbags are even willing to start, possibly start World War III. If we all survive till Jan 20th it'll be a miracle!
I'm so scared. Moscow installed its puppet in Washington and destroyed democracies around the world, leveling cities in Ukraine and killing civilians using Iranian North Korean drones. So my word is - GREAT INFORMATION JOE. GIVE IT MORE!
Quoting Ratmach
Some of us have been saying for a long time now: There are people out there who hate Trump to such a degree that literally nothing is off the table. Of course they continued to lie about him (and us) 24/7 for years, but they also tried and failed to get him off the ballots, they failed to put him in jail, so then they took it to what seemed to be the ultimate level... literally trying to kill the man (at least twice). But that's NOT their last resort. What IS is what we might be seeing now: Leave Trump with such a mess that he'll be able to accomplish...
Woah woah this is my issue with most individuals who start spewing the political stuff on these forums. BOTH sides have lied at least be objectively truthful. So are you trying to tell me the Dems tried to kill Trump? Again I have no dog in the fight since I know both sides are grifting to the max. My question would be is which lie from either side is more digestible at this point?

I can't wait until this political cycle dies down truly a whole bunch of wackos and conspiracy theorist are popping up everyday with some of the most deluded thoughts I've run across in my lifetime.

NEWS FLASH : Politicians on both sides are going to get over on the people they claim to represent. Get your money and get out the way.
The solution is (x).
Its funny, why is it russia who dictates when third world war begins? After all its russia firing tons and tobs of missiles against an unarmed opponent...
Quoting Momofrmnyc
{quote} Woah woah this is my issue with most individuals who start spewing the political stuff on these forums. BOTH sides have lied at least be objectively truthful. So are you trying to tell me the Dems tried to kill Trump? Again I have no dog in the fight since I know both sides are grifting to the max. My question would be is which lie from either side is more digestible at this point? I can't wait until this political cycle dies down truly a whole bunch of wackos and conspiracy theorist are popping up everyday with some of the most deluded...
When you push the lies that Trump is a fascist, is literally the "new Hitler", continually tell people how dangerous he is and he'll destroy the lives of you and everyone you care about... what might be the result of that? Hmm...? Could it be that they KNOW that'll lead to weirdos wanting to be a hero... by TAKING OUT that Hitler? Brainwashing and gaslighting can be dangerous, can be DEADLY. So... do I think they realized that's where their lies might eventually lead? Absolutely, and they did. not. care.
Quoting Ratmach
{quote} When you push the lies that Trump is a fascist, is literally the "new Hitler", continually tell people how dangerous he is and he'll destroy the lives of you and everyone you care about... what might be the result of that? Hmm...? Could it be that they KNOW that'll lead to weirdos wanting to be a hero... by TAKING OUT that Hitler? Brainwashing and gaslighting can be dangerous, can be DEADLY. So... do I think they realized that's where their lies might eventually lead? Absolutely, and they did. not. care.
I can't have a conversation because you're already disingenuous. I can call out BOTH sides in their lies and violent rhetoric that's been spread on BOTH SIDES. See the difference is I can objectively call out a REPUBLICAN or DEMOCRAT that spew that vitriol because it has no place in advanced democracy. We can have disagreements without getting nasty. You've only mentioned one side like the other side hasn't participated in similar tactics. Again I don't care for either side - I know what I get with him as a businessman and I'll print money even easier with him as president. All I'm saying is be objective and speak on the truths on all sides and not just fractured pieces. I too can DIG UP crazy things that was said by the other side as well. What does that accomplish?

****I'll say this the Democrats have to change the old guards. (Nancy Pelosi, Schumer, and etc - they are lame ducks that will drag their party even further down. They can't objectively admit their out of touch with the working Americans when Bernie called them out on the loss. I'm actually happy that the Dems lost in this fashion. They needed to get their teeth kicked in for relying on votes and doing bare minimum for their constituents for all this time.
The solution is (x).
Quoting Banditten
Its funny, why is it russia who dictates when third world war begins? After all its russia firing tons and tobs of missiles against an unarmed opponent...
agreements broken tend to lead to war.
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Look at the yields! Something is about to happen soon and I have no doubt about it. Before Trump gets into office, expect the unexpected.
I don't get this 180 by Biden, it's really hard to see this in any other light but a middle finger to Trump. It looks small and petty. Is it worth risking WW3 over losing an election?
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I'm so scared. Moscow installed its puppet in Washington!
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Quoting Polimini
I don't get this 180 by Biden, it's really hard to see this in any other light but a middle finger to Trump. It looks small and petty. Is it worth risking WW3 over losing an election?
Nothing to do with US elections. It is a reply for Putin attacking Ukraine with over 100 missiles over the weekend when asked to refrain from escalating the conflict by DT and Schröder. Moreover, Ukraine has the full right to defend itself by any means against enemy attacks. Russia can end the war immediately by withdrawing its troops from Ukraine. Too many people here believe Putins propaganda and defend the criminals who continue to slaughter innocent people in Ukraine.
Quoting Polimini
I don't get this 180 by Biden, it's really hard to see this in any other light but a middle finger to Trump. It looks small and petty. Is it worth risking WW3 over losing an election?
What would your suggestion be? There is only one alternatve = surrender? Russia keep slaughtering innocent people and yet you will not allow then to defend itself? Unfortunately, the one convincing Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons was a US president and they did so because they believed in piece and the US. Who is giving the middle finger to who?
Quoting Banditten
{quote} What would your suggestion be? There is only one alternatve = surrender? Russia keep slaughtering innocent people and yet you will not allow then to defend itself? Unfortunately, the one convincing Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons was a US president and they did so because they believed in piece and the US. Who is giving the middle finger to who?
Biden said for what... 4 years that he would not allow to use the missiles because it could risk WWIII, all of sudden it's allowed, a week after Trump won. That's just idiotic.
Quoting TraderTero
{quote} Nothing to do with US elections. It is a reply for Putin attacking Ukraine with over 100 missiles over the weekend when asked to refrain from escalating the conflict by DT and Schröder. Moreover, Ukraine has the full right to defend itself by any means against enemy attacks. Russia can end the war immediately by withdrawing its troops from Ukraine. Too many people here believe Putins propaganda and defend the criminals who continue to slaughter innocent people in Ukraine.
you live in denial land. Sure after 4 years in office, now a week after Trump won, finally Biden saw the light but it's completely unrelated wtf
Quoting Polimini
{quote} you live in denial land. Sure after 4 years in office, now a week after Trump won, finally Biden saw the light but it's completely unrelated wtf
No you are living in a fairytale wonderland. I am not saying there is no relation between the two things. You may well be right. All I am saying is that you let Russia decide the red lines and when 3 world war breaks out. In particular Europe need to step up but also US.

It may all be MAGA now but as far as I know Europe is the largest trading partner with US. So its also US interest that Europe is healthy and doing better than now.
Okay I'm out. I appreciate the back and forth, lots of food for thought. But I'm just not in the mood to go too deep into it right now (though of course it's super important). I've just been trying to relax a little and breath again after what's been going on the past few years... and I'm just really, really thankful for what happened on the 5th. Even if in some ways the drama may only INCREASE for the next couple months.
Quoting TraderTero
{quote} Nothing to do with US elections. It is a reply for Putin attacking Ukraine with over 100 missiles over the weekend when asked to refrain from escalating the conflict by DT and Schröder. Moreover, Ukraine has the full right to defend itself by any means against enemy attacks. Russia can end the war immediately by withdrawing its troops from Ukraine. Too many people here believe Putins propaganda and defend the criminals who continue to slaughter innocent people in Ukraine.
Attacking isnt the same as defending they should focus on defending their country rather than bombing inside russia wrong focus
The west is aggressively trying to take over the east, chess piece by chess piece. Israel & ukraine. Dems vocally say they despise war but physically unloading mayhem by proxy. Coincidence its happening simultaneously, not. Lining their pockets and power.
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