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  • US officials say initial findings suggest missile that hit Poland was fired by Ukrainian forces at incoming Russian missile - AP reporter tweet

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  • Nov 16, 2022 12:18am Nov 16, 2022 12:18am
What a mess. Without proper investigation politicians jumping to conclusions. Why such statements "Russia attacks show it doesn’t want to end war - Zelensky".

Can understand Ukraine's position that they would like NATO to fight Russia and end the mess. We need some sense and accountability especially when Ukraine wants arms and high end missiles from west.

Time to put ego's aside and start serious discussions with Putin to stop the war.
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  • Nov 16, 2022 12:23am Nov 16, 2022 12:23am
A "Friendly Fire" after all? ..... I guess markets will cool off now?
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  • Nov 16, 2022 1:51am Nov 16, 2022 1:51am
I wondering the market will not damage what is happening in Poland
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  • Nov 16, 2022 2:06am Nov 16, 2022 2:06am
It seems this provocation does not work well for Zelensky
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  • Nov 16, 2022 2:21am Nov 16, 2022 2:21am
Quoting alter
It seems this provocation does not work well for Zelensky
It was a mistake and mistakes do happen.
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  • Nov 16, 2022 2:55am Nov 16, 2022 2:55am
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twitter will surely lead to WW
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  • Nov 16, 2022 3:32am Nov 16, 2022 3:32am
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Quoting Ojiego
A "Friendly Fire" after all? ..... I guess markets will cool off now?
Technically speaking Ukraine attacked NATO country... maybe accident, maybe trying to provoke NATO into war with Russia. Same kind of provocation that happened in war on Yugoslavian ( Sarajevo market bombing) that was wrongly blamed on Serbs and it was an excuse to start bombing of Belgrade.
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  • Nov 16, 2022 4:14am Nov 16, 2022 4:14am
Zelensky immediately blaming Russia and therefore attempt to bring NATO into the war should raise the question whether the missile was actually (deliberately) fired by Ukraine to get just this reaction. NATO has taken the right steps by looking long and hard at what happened rather than going gung-ho into war mode.
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  • Nov 16, 2022 4:14am Nov 16, 2022 4:14am
The upcoming Article 4 meeting will be about the weather and maybe compare some
ticktock videos....
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  • Nov 16, 2022 4:26am Nov 16, 2022 4:26am
The only party to blame is Russia because without them attacking Ukraine no missiles would be flying in Ukraine's air space.
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  • Nov 16, 2022 4:30am Nov 16, 2022 4:30am
Quoting Bakker
{quote} It was a mistake and mistakes do happen.
Actually kaklowaffen are renowned for firing rockets indiscriminately starting in 2000 hitting with ballistic missile their own block of flat near Xyev - likely without a warhead still 3 was killed + 5 wounded. Later shooting down passenger planes in 2001 and 2014, as well as Romanian fighter jet and rescue helicopter this year, sending old soviet era UAV with 100 kilos of explosive into Hungary - likely it missed intended target. Now this. Polska Strong! These attacks on NATO countries must be stopped! Unless NATO/OTAN nothing more than bunch of pussies.
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  • Nov 16, 2022 4:37am Nov 16, 2022 4:37am
Quoting TraderTero
The only party to blame is Russia because without them attacking Ukraine no missiles would be flying in Ukraine's air space.
(c) Times magazine

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  • Nov 16, 2022 4:42am Nov 16, 2022 4:42am
French point of view

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  • Nov 16, 2022 7:14am Nov 16, 2022 7:14am
Acknowledging complete failure of Biden administration to broker a peace is a start to the road to peace.
Putting a Dementia patient with limited intellectual capacity into that Oval office creates atmosphere of distrust in any potential adversary.
The inevitable breakdown in dialogue creates War where innocents perish. That is Nature of War, People Die as consequence.
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  • Nov 16, 2022 7:53am Nov 16, 2022 7:53am
it seems that NATO = no action talk only, if Russian missiles are deliberately fired into the territory of a NATO country, then it is likely that NATO will also avoid it with a thousand reasons
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  • Nov 16, 2022 8:22am Nov 16, 2022 8:22am
The deputy head of Ukraine's presidential office, Kyrylo Tymoshenko, said a total of 15 energy targets were damaged and claimed that 70 missiles were shot down. A Ukrainian Air Force spokesman said Russia used X-101 and X-555 cruise missiles.
United Nation must conduct a rapid investigation of the missile that fell in Poland, in order to obtain a clear conclusion
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  • Nov 16, 2022 8:26am Nov 16, 2022 8:26am
Many will be disappointed that this incident has not been interpreted as an attack on NATO. Especially those who want NATO soldiers to fight Ukraines battles. Good sense has prevailed and NATO has not been provoked into a catastrophic ( for everyone) wide spread war or , heaven forbid, nuclear war.
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
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  • Nov 16, 2022 8:40am Nov 16, 2022 8:40am
Naturally, if many are afraid that the war is widespread, but it is better for United Nation to conduct an accurate, precise and fast investigation
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  • Nov 16, 2022 8:41am Nov 16, 2022 8:41am
Quoting marketchaos
Zelensky immediately blaming Russia and therefore attempt to bring NATO into the war should raise the question whether the missile was actually (deliberately) fired by Ukraine to get just this reaction. NATO has taken the right steps by looking long and hard at what happened rather than going gung-ho into war mode.
Whilst it might have been a bit fast out of the blocks to blame Russia, I think if you were on the receiving end of many missiles and you heard one landed in Poland then you might come to that conclusion too. The idea that Ukraine fired these purposely into Poland (and hit two very unfortunate people in the middle of nowhere) is ridiculous. Nato were always going to know who fired the missiles.
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  • Nov 16, 2022 8:47am Nov 16, 2022 8:47am
That's right because NATO has sophisticated satellites and tools that can detect exactly where the missile source
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  • Nov 16, 2022 9:04am Nov 16, 2022 9:04am
Wow, it has become a situation
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  • Nov 16, 2022 11:27am Nov 16, 2022 11:27am
Quoting Sennerd
{quote} Whilst it might have been a bit fast out of the blocks to blame Russia, I think if you were on the receiving end of many missiles and you heard one landed in Poland then you might come to that conclusion too. The idea that Ukraine fired these purposely into Poland (and hit two very unfortunate people in the middle of nowhere) is ridiculous. Nato were always going to know who fired the missiles.
"Kyiv Demands Access To Poland Blast Site, Doubles Down On 'Russian Attack' Narrative"
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kyiv-demands-access-poland-blast-site-doubles-down-russian-attack-narrative
"Despite the US, Poland, and NATO's Secretary General all having at this point admitted that Tuesday's deadly Polish border incident was not due to a Russian attack, but instead was "likely caused by a Ukrainian air defense missile" - according to Jens Stoltenberg's own words, on Wednesday the Ukrainian government is still clinging to its accusations that Russia attacked a NATO ally.

Doubling down on the claims, Kyiv is now requesting immediate access to the site of the blast in the Polish village of Przewodów, in order to conduct its own investigation. And yet it sounds like Ukrainian officials are already 'certain' in their conclusions. "Ukraine requests immediate access to the site of the explosion," Secretary of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov, said on Twitter."
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  • Nov 16, 2022 6:27pm Nov 16, 2022 6:27pm
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