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  • Boris Johnson Plans To Resign As British Prime Minister

    Boris Johnson Plans To Resign As British Prime Minister

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  • UK'S PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON WILL STAY ON AS LEADER UNTIL NEW PARTY LEADER CHOSEN THIS SUMMER - SUN REPORTER.

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  • Jul 7, 2022 4:17am Jul 7, 2022 4:17am
  •  jordanvic
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the best rager party host in british goverment history. you will be missed
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 4:19am Jul 7, 2022 4:19am
  •  Mosmoney
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A real shame but brought upon himself along with duff advisors. The hand of Cummings is still around....

Come back Lady T.
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 4:21am Jul 7, 2022 4:21am
  •  hkg_paul
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So it means alot... All the summit he has been holding in the last few months G7 and Ukraine visit, India visit...... Ans making joke of Putin. And now it shows he is the clown himself
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  • Jul 7, 2022 4:34am Jul 7, 2022 4:34am
  •  Cdfx
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No mate! There is still one left in Brazil. That one will be the last.
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 4:36am Jul 7, 2022 4:36am
  •  NotBoris
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{quote} No mate! There is still one left in Brazil. That one will be the last.
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Ahh!!! I forgot about that one, there are few more still. But we are getting there....hopefully soon
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 4:36am Jul 7, 2022 4:36am
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He did a good job so far. delivered on Brexit as the public voted on ( I am Remainer but accepted the democratic vote), worked on the vaccine mandate roll out and provided a lot of assistance like the furlough scheme to many people during lockdown plus assisted businesses tremendously as well as handled the ukraine war well. he was one of the first prime ministers to visited there.yes, he had a few mishaps but he brought that upon himself like allowing parties at his own No 10 and bad error of judgement with that Minister.
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  • Jul 7, 2022 4:43am Jul 7, 2022 4:43am
  •  Faucon
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{quote} Ahh!!! I forgot about that one, there are few more still. But we are getting there....hopefully soon
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i suppose , you enjoyed the last meeting with the far left in France during the football match in Paris :-)
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 5:03am Jul 7, 2022 5:03am
  •  asking
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Regime change indeed but not in moscow mwahawhah , next biden ?
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 5:03am Jul 7, 2022 5:03am
  •  Mitiblotch
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How about far lefties? Those are no good either.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mitiblotch/mt5-10567385/9464692
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 5:07am Jul 7, 2022 5:07am
  •  turnip15
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Is Putin a populist for his "Trumpist" goal of making, "Russia great again." Hmm?
Buy the rouble?
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 5:18am Jul 7, 2022 5:18am
  •  The Doji
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Alas he brought this upon himself however there has been a witch hunt from day one of his tenure by a number of the woke news broadcasters and the anti Brexit MP's - many of whom in his own party. Describing him as far right is farcical, yes he extols free market enterprise that does not make him a fascist. I think you will find many former Labour voters voted for him/ his party.
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 5:26am Jul 7, 2022 5:26am
  •  turnip15
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{quote} Alas he brought this upon himself however there has been a witch hunt from day one of his tenure by a number of the woke news broadcasters and the anti Brexit MP's - many of whom in his own party. Describing him as far right is farcical, yes he extols free market enterprise that does not make him a fascist. I think you will find many former Labour voters voted for him/ his party.
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Boris Johnson was excellent at rhetoric which got him elected. Unfortunately his rhetoric was not matched by action. Examples being wage rises for nurses and others involved in face to face dealings with the pandemic, building new hospitals and/or repairing old hospitals that are currently in a dilapidated condition, some using pit props to keep the roof safe - the list goes on and people are pissed off.
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 5:45am Jul 7, 2022 5:45am
  •  RossEdwards
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Boris Johnsons legacy..
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  • Jul 7, 2022 5:54am Jul 7, 2022 5:54am
  •  The Doji
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My case in point - the division and hatred stemmed from the "Remain" - anti Brexit faction, many in the Civil Service, who, had they focussed on working on a united front instead of undermining both May and Johnson we would certainly be in a better position today. And racism? Isn't that the term brandished by the Remoaners for any person who had the temerity to want to free the UK from the shackles of European autocracy.
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 6:00am Jul 7, 2022 6:00am
  •  nkimandi
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From the look of things he will finally have enough time to work on his pecs..Putin needs a rival
Carpe Diem
 
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  •  RossEdwards
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{quote} .....any person who had the temerity to want to free the UK from the shackles of European autocracy.
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Your slip is showing mate.

Good for pound maybe....
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  • Jul 7, 2022 6:23am Jul 7, 2022 6:23am
  •  thubajumbe
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Good day for the pound
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 6:32am Jul 7, 2022 6:32am
  •  Sennerd
  • | Joined Feb 2014 | Status: Member | 152 Comments
"There must never be any accommodation for FAR RIGHT populist to flourish in this world we live in ever again - though unlikely."

FAR RIGHT? We just went through two years of lockdown nonsense in which a large number of us were paid to do nothing but cower at home by virtue of a printing press that any S. American socialist might have cringed at and you refer to it as FAR RIGHT? What are you talking about? You are the epitome of how phrases and terms in politics have been turned upside down without any cognitive consideration of whether it makes sense. We have socialists clamouring for more corporate powers via policies that killed sole traders, we have ardent support of pharmaceuticals, we have liberals supporting mandates and closure of bank accounts for resistors. And we have had a Conservative government that just printed.
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 6:38am Jul 7, 2022 6:38am
  •  almonleng
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Should this be a bad news for Pound? From what we have seen so far, Politicians are getting worse and worse...He will be remembered if another dump ass got elected, could be an actor? Who knows..
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 6:42am Jul 7, 2022 6:42am
  •  Xplorer
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Neither FAR RIGHT nor FAR LEFT! Have a great day!
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 6:58am Jul 7, 2022 6:58am
  •  NotAtrader
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Boris Johnsons legacy.. {image} Source; FF /Members Comedy Club Lounge/Comedy Club
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made my day
Start with 1000$. Increase by 3% every day. After one year 2 213 314$
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  • Jul 7, 2022 7:15am Jul 7, 2022 7:15am
  •  NotBoris
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{quote} Neither FAR RIGHT nor FAR LEFT! Have a great day!
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This I concur with! Happy trading
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 7:17am Jul 7, 2022 7:17am
  •  Nvp
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GBP rocked this morning !!!!
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 7:39am Jul 7, 2022 7:39am
  •  NotBoris
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{quote} Neither FAR RIGHT nor FAR LEFT! Have a great day!
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This I concur with! Happy trading
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 8:47am Jul 7, 2022 8:47am
  •  deltaone
  • Joined Nov 2013 | Status: Made in Germany | 426 Comments
britons for sure deserve someone better, so i´m happy to see him gone. a great liar with strong rethorical skills. a product of the upper class without a moral compass he is par exellence.
fortis fortuna adiuvat
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 9:01am Jul 7, 2022 9:01am
  •  Sennerd
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NotBoris - why o why would you want more government? Can you direct me to ANY leader anywhere who you think is doing a good job? More government is more gravy of corruption.
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 9:02am Jul 7, 2022 9:02am
  •  rashadali
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everything makes eur to sink
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 9:11am Jul 7, 2022 9:11am
  •  Sennerd
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NotBoris - you present yourself as wanting a fairer society but that would involve higher wages at the bottom of society. Factory workers across the country almost immediately saw wage rises after the endless labour supply ceased. Companies pay more now and invest in capital. I've seen it directly. You wanted truckers to truck for low pay as you did with all the other lesser skilled workforces. Try not to mention narcissist because it cuts a little too close to your fake society bones.
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 10:05am Jul 7, 2022 10:05am
  •  hesron
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Boris Johnson was a great Leader for the UK and will always be remember for the UK people.
All my analysis is based on Wyckoff Methods
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  • Jul 7, 2022 10:23am Jul 7, 2022 10:23am
  •  NotBoris
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NotBoris - you present yourself as wanting a fairer society but that would involve higher wages at the bottom of society. Factory workers across the country almost immediately saw wage rises after the endless labour supply ceased. Companies pay more now and invest in capital. I've seen it directly. You wanted truckers to truck for low pay as you did with all the other lesser skilled workforces. Try not to mention narcissist because it cuts a little too close to your fake society bones.
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Mogg, is that you?
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 11:21am Jul 7, 2022 11:21am
  •  Sennerd
  • | Joined Feb 2014 | Status: Member | 152 Comments
You never answer a question you can't answer. Crystal clear who you play for.
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 11:55am Jul 7, 2022 11:55am
  •  NotBoris
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You never answer a question you can't answer. Crystal clear who you play for.
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What questions do you want me to answer Mogg? When it was you who cooked up your own fantasy accusations in post 31 of issues I have not muttered about?
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 12:08pm Jul 7, 2022 12:08pm
  •  Sennerd
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Read the above. Lazy aswell.
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 12:22pm Jul 7, 2022 12:22pm
  •  NotBoris
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Read the above. Lazy aswell.
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You failed to understand what I meant Mogg...

In any case, you are more than welcome to conjure and dream of any factless accusations on others - it is your freedom.

Happy trading
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 12:40pm Jul 7, 2022 12:40pm
  •  Sennerd
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Haven't failed anything. The questions are there but you never answer them and it was you amongst others who have consistently claimed that labour shortages from Brexit are a bad thing. Bad thing for you because you are not part of society that takes a higher salary as a result.
I'm happily trading the EurGBP down - the market doesn't like this afternoon so I'll help you out - it makes a solution to Ukraine less likely to be favourable.
Happy trading to you Mong.
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 1:02pm Jul 7, 2022 1:02pm
  •  RossEdwards
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{quote} Mogg, is that you?
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I have had a disturbing thought NotBoris...
Your Meme is now irrelevant? No?

Can we now look forward to a you renaming yourself NotLiz? NotRishi? NotDom?
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  • Jul 7, 2022 1:28pm Jul 7, 2022 1:28pm
  •  Headland
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Populism never ends well in any democracy. It either gets booted out, like Boris or in less 'mature' democracies it leads to authoritarianism and then that never ends well either. It revolves around the narcissistic sociopathic character traits of populists. Trump is the ultimate modern-day example of this but history is littered with them. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I for one am glad that in Britain, in this at least, we have learnt the lessons of history, and got rid after less than 3 years. I am not sure that the forces unleashed by Trump's populism will see such a happy conclusion with our American cousins. I fear for their future with the toxic combination of a less mature democracy, a broken democratic model, or at least one that is no longer fit for purpose, unleashed resentment/forces thru it's flirtation with populism, and 400m guns!
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  • Jul 7, 2022 2:59pm Jul 7, 2022 2:59pm
  •  NotBoris
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{quote} I have had a disturbing thought NotBoris... Your Meme is now irrelevant? No? Can we now look forward to a you renaming yourself NotLiz? NotRishi? NotDom?
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NotSaint is an candidate new meme . Can't use notliz as I would need a new photo everyday for every opportunity in the limelight.
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 3:29pm Jul 7, 2022 3:29pm
  •  Sennerd
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Here comes another one spouting populism with no idea of what it is that is objected apart from a policy they didn't agree with.
 
 
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{quote} I have had a disturbing thought NotBoris... Your Meme is now irrelevant? No? Can we now look forward to a you renaming yourself NotLiz? NotRishi? NotDom?
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How bout Priti?. Here, it just occurred to me that 3 of the top 5 candidates have Asian roots.
 
 
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  •  RossEdwards
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For Information :
ugov latest probability polls:

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  • Jul 7, 2022 5:55pm Jul 7, 2022 5:55pm
  •  chemosi
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Populism never ends well in any democracy. It either gets booted out, like Boris or in less 'mature' democracies it leads to authoritarianism and then that never ends well either. It revolves around the narcissistic sociopathic character traits of populists. Trump is the ultimate modern-day example of this but history is littered with them. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I for one am glad that in Britain, in this at least, we have learnt the lessons of history, and got rid after less than 3 years. I am not sure that the forces unleashed by Trump's...
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Then Biden must be the ultimate modern-day example of saviour of mankind,
Hunter Biden the most upright member of the society.
When will you differentiate populists and free thinkers???
Is a puppet populist to its puppet master?
Great posts here except yours.

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"We have socialists clamouring for more corporate powers via policies that killed sole traders, we have ardent support of pharmaceuticals, we have liberals supporting mandates and closure of bank accounts for resistors. And we have had a Conservative government that just printed"
 
 
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  • Jul 7, 2022 6:02pm Jul 7, 2022 6:02pm
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So it means alot... All the summit he has been holding in the last few months G7 and Ukraine visit, India visit...... Ans making joke of Putin. And now it shows he is the clown himself
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One clown/puppet down, earlier than expected.
To be replaced by maybe another clown/puppet soon.
The clown show continues shortly......
 
 
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Here comes another one spouting populism with no idea of what it is that is objected apart from a policy they didn't agree with.
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If it is my post you are referring to; I had very little problem with his policy ideas. Whilst I was not a fan of brexit I accepted it as the will of the majority and hoped we could make a good job of it but his other policy positions like leveling up, I agreed with.

When you have an unwritten constitution it very much relies on everyone playing by the rules/protocols/precedents/accepted norms otherwise it breaks down. When you get a populist in power, they don't. Now some things need challenging and changing of course, that is and should be the evolutionary nature of politics, but riding roughshod thru them creates chaos and disorder. Worse the constant lies and disregard for actual facts/the actual truth that populists practice is dangerous to the very fabric of an ordered society/democracy and the rule of law. These are the extremes and we have witnessed it many times, just like in the U.s now, so better to 'nip it in the bud' before it takes hold. By getting rid of a populist like BoJo it sends a message that these things are important to us and the functioning of a free society, and to be fair to the Uk tory party, this is what they have done.

How society does things, is as important as what it does.
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{quote} Then Biden must be the ultimate modern-day example of saviour of mankind, Hunter Biden the most upright member of the society. When will you differentiate populists and free thinkers??? Is a puppet populist to its puppet master? Great posts here except yours. Post 20 "We have socialists clamouring for more corporate powers via policies that killed sole traders, we have ardent support of pharmaceuticals, we have liberals supporting...
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I completely know the difference between populists and free-thinkers and thank god we have free thinkers, because if a populist takes power and is allowed to exercise that power at will - free-thinking gets cracked down on as does the free expression of that thinking. Populists mostly all demonstrate/exhibit the same character traits to one degree or another, and are mostly all sociopaths to one degree or another. This is not a good character condition to allow to hold power. History has taught us that many many times.

Re the Bidens, first President Biden - he is not a populist and exhibits none of the tell-tale signs of being a sociopath. I believe he is, like the rest of us, a flawed human being. Overall, he seems like a good man, founded in a long-held faith, and as honest as any politician is/can be, that isn't a sociopath. I do however think he exhibits signs of his old age, and is really too old to be doing the job. As for Hunter Biden, he seems to have been/is a very troubled individual but he is not in power. If he was, then he too should probably not be, from what we know about him.
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You've written an awful lot there without attempting to define a 'populist'. This is what main stream media throw around when the politics doesn't match their preference. What happened in the last five years to align media across the world against certain individuals? 1. What did these individuals do to really upset the apple cart? 2. What on earth has happened that has facilitated and allowed a whole presentation of a way of thinking across apparently different democracies?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxX-Cyb0RPg
 
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  •  Headland
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You've written an awful lot there without attempting to define a 'populist'. This is what main stream media throw around when the politics doesn't match their preference. What happened in the last five years to align media across the world against certain individuals? 1. What did these individuals do to really upset the apple cart? 2. What on earth has happened that has facilitated and allowed a whole presentation of a way of thinking across apparently different democracies? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxX-Cyb0RPg
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Au contraire,! I have said in this thread that populists tend to be narcissistic sociopaths to one degree or another, and this is the central feature of populists, so indeed I have defined this central feature of what a populist tends to be. You can google 'populist' anytime if you don't know the definition of one.

Now, all politicians are to some extent narcissists, and narcissism is one of the features of a sociopath, but not the only one. Populists who are sociopaths are high in narcissism, have fragile ego's, don't like being challenged, and create a world of their own facts to suit the narrative they are pushing, regardless of the actual truth. They tend to be self-serving, and tend toward an authoritarian style of management, and eventual philospophy.

Some leaders don't realise they are populists let alone sociopaths but all sociopaths tend to push this authoritarian style (which is a function of their condition,) and to some extent bring the people along with them at first. This is usually after a period of weak and/or ineffectual leadership/drift, or the perception of such in their particular country. They tap into long-held resentments of the people and over-promise somehow miraculous cures to these ills and almost always under-deliver/not deliver but spin the narrative that they have/are delivering because in the end they create a world where facts don't matter (Trump's famous 'alternative facts' as an example.) Remember the famous '...There were more people at the inauguration than ever before. Period!...' line from Spicer - Trump's press sec on day 1 of his administration. There plainly were not, but it was such an insult to his fragile ego that he pushed the 'alternative fact.' Spicer has since said publicly that he too knew there were not - fact! but he pushed the lie because he was ordered to. He has since called it the 'worst day of my life.' Perception becomes greater than reality for them.

As to your further point, it's not a question of calling leaders who do not match our own politics names, there are, have been, and will be plenty of those in the future, it's calling out what some of them are because if we don't - well, we know where that leads. Populism unchecked and unchallenged leads to authoritarianism.

Re your question about media...well media tends to be left-leaning anyway. It falls under the banner of the creative arts and those that gravitate toward it tend to be left-of-centre progressives, (with the exceptions of Fox etc who are just mouthpieces for the populists.) I don't think that this has been a conspiracy, just that populism is the antithesis of what they are, so they call it out, and thank god they do.

Rules matter, Civility matters, Politeness matters, respect matters, and truth matters, but to populists and particularly sociopathic ones, they do not. If we lose all these and allow populists to trash them then we are heading down a slippery slope, and that is the clear lesson of history, and indeed common-sense.
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'You can google 'populist' anytime if you don't know the definition of one'.

I've just linked you an attachment of the origins of the word populism and it features in the first minute of that video. I studied extensively at university along with discourse analysis of national newspapers in defining national identity. I've taken a keen interest in it ever since. What is happening here is an orchestration of thinking that has not been apparent at any other time in my lifetime.
Thinking certainly is under threat and it has mostly come from the left which has a desire to be authoritarian because it requires it for its action. It has been very difficult to have even a discussion or healthy argument without getting through the fog of words aimed to silence the opposition. Brexit led to the frequent phrase used in msm as 'Brexit extremists'. People who have questioned or hesitated about vaccines or vaccine mandates have been referred to as 'anti-vaxxers' even though many took the vaccines but shock horror, objected to other elements of application - passports, lockdowns, child injections etc. Dr Fauci famously said science didn't need discussion because 'he was science'. There are so many forms of silencing and cancel culture whereas before it was straightforward disagreement. But now we have word grenades thrown around, FAR RIGHT, RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, POPULIST. Your logic has run around the corner and back to justify your position in assigning the 'populist' badge. You've now attached it to the 'narcissist' badge and left yourself to decide who fits it. We are now a million miles from the original 'populist' definition but it doesn't matter because it is the insult that counts.

In this context 'Rules matter, Civility matters, Politeness matters, respect matters, and truth matters' is simply ludicrous. MSM stopped reporting news with investigative journalism and probing for facts and has became overwhelmingly an opinion piece. And condemns daily. It is directing thinking at every turn and making life very uncomfortable for people to think differently. It feels very ominous to me.
A good number of leaders will always be narcissistic - it is the nature of the job in getting to the top and manipulating the circus and stabbing the opposition in the back that gets you that far.

Trudeau, Johnson, Blair, Trump, Biden, Pelosi, Putin, Major, Fauci, Verhofstadt, Zelensky, Schulz, Macron - since you have cast yourself as chief designator, then have a friendly game with yourself and decide which of these are populists and then look in the mirror with a straight face and tell yourself it's not your bias that decided.

If you have any real concern about history you ought to know that it is vital that people be allowed to offer opinions and preferences without the thought police riding into town throwing around the frequent 'shame word grenades'. This is what really divides society - people need to switch off media and get back to the idea that people can disagree without slamming the others with stupid labels. It is far from clever.
 
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{quote} Populists who are sociopaths are high in narcissism, have fragile ego's, don't like being challenged, and create a world of their own facts to suit the narrative they are pushing, regardless of the actual truth. They tend to be self-serving, and tend toward an authoritarian style of management, and eventual philospophy.,...
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{quote} They tap into long-held resentments of the people and over-promise somehow miraculous cures to these ills and almost always under-deliver/not deliver but spin the narrative that they have/are delivering because in the end they create a world where facts don't matter (Trump's famous 'alternative facts' as an example.) Remember the famous '...There were more people at the inauguration than ever before. Period!...' line from Spicer - Trump's press sec on day 1 of his administration.,...
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Trump also said we should take the vaccine, the second shot and the booster. Did he mandate it?
How many americans have taken the second shot and the booster?
Again who are the populists and who are the free thinkers?
When do we question every leader for their actions/decisions and speak including your "good man Biden"
 
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{quote} Populism unchecked and unchallenged leads to authoritarianism....Rules matter, Civility matters, Politeness matters, respect matters, and truth matters, but to populists and particularly sociopathic ones, they do not.
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Dutch farmers, populists or free thinkers?
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"create a world of their own facts to suit the narrative they are pushing" - you highlighted this perfectly. If we want the truth then give us the information. Which part of society and its supporters is not too enthusiastic about providing this? Which part of society is just not happy about people having their own thoughts? We have even had articles in newspapers shaming pregnant women for their hesitancy in taking a covid vaccine, as if history hasn't sadly shown that there have been devastating examples in the past. How did these articles come to pass? How is it that the public mostly overlook either the common sense of caution or the outrage of applying pressures like this? These are extraordinary times and they have been aided and abetted by a good number of people slinging words around as insults without ANY thought for the long term consequences to society. It's all turned black and white. If I point out some awkwardly insightful Trump speeches on Nato spending then I'm a 'Trump supporter' apparently. Very few of us are able to formulate ideas on a case by case basis. It's no wonder the elites are taking the piss. They are playing the music and sure as hell are dancing!
 
 
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