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  • The U.K. Is Being Consumed by Brexit More Than Covid

    From bnnbloomberg.ca

    When Brexit and the coronavirus blurred into a political fog engulfing the U.K. last year, at the center of it inevitably stood the leader who has been defined by both. Prime Minister Boris Johnson stuck to the line that his country was at a turning point, on the cusp of a return to greatness after leaving the European Union. A shortage of critical workers, supply chain disruption and a rollercoaster resurgence of virus infections were bumps in the road on the journey to his much-vaunted “Global Britain.” As the world confronts the latest incarnation of Covid-19, the U.K. has record infections and taken another ... (full story)

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  • Jan 5, 2022 7:13am Jan 5, 2022 7:13am
  •  JotaP
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Feb 2021 | 276 Comments
US cooperation with the UK will be mostly on the military field to serve US purposes.
UK will have to reapply for the EU and face again the Johnny Foreigner intruders.
Follow your guts, if you want to lose your money...
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2022 7:40am Jan 5, 2022 7:40am
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  • Joined Jan 2007 | Status: Member | 2551 Comments
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Yep. Never thought it would come to this but people are going to have to make a stand based upon principles and ethics not what Tyrants say.
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2022 8:03am Jan 5, 2022 8:03am
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This is not the Middle ages and you are not chattel for an Aristocracy of bonehead elites.
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2022 8:09am Jan 5, 2022 8:09am
  •  JotaP
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They can't even sell the cheese and polls already say people want to be back.

Well, the bureaucracy is significant and the readmission may take 10, 20 years or be refused.

Good luck.
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  • Jan 5, 2022 8:17am Jan 5, 2022 8:17am
  •  MrFanciful
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Look Bloomberg...Your side lost 6 years ago...Get over it.
 
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  • Jan 5, 2022 8:29am Jan 5, 2022 8:29am
  •  DaJoWaBa
  • Joined Sep 2018 | Status: Member | 646 Comments
We should already be used to this drag-out of this tiresome theoretical linkage. Why bother with the other annoying potential axes for a chart if 'they' can link just 2 of them on the axes of choice and then link just 2 plotted points on that chosen axis?
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2022 8:45am Jan 5, 2022 8:45am
  •  turnip15
  • Joined Sep 2006 | Status: Member | 529 Comments
The EU is not perfect but neither are many other groups of countries or trading parties. But at least it would be better to be part of a big group to withstand 'bullying' by larger countries such as Russia, USA etc on matters of trade, technology, economics, treaties or security. Small countries get 'picked off' by larger one's.
The UK should re-join the EU.
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
 
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  • Jan 5, 2022 9:49am Jan 5, 2022 9:49am
  •  DaJoWaBa
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The EU is not perfect but neither are many other groups of countries or trading parties. But at least it would be better to be part of a big group to withstand 'bullying' by larger countries such as Russia, USA etc on matters of trade, technology, economics, treaties or security. Small countries get 'picked off' by larger one's. The UK should re-join the EU.
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That's such a narrow-minded approach to the issue and it should be far more nuanced than this chosen proposed black-and-white justification. How does one measure size? Is it population, GDP or status of developed or advanced economies? I suspect that population is the selected spectrum in the statement. Is Japan worried about being bullied on a daily basis, or Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Canada, Switzerland and so on? Are they the poorer as a result? Is a Hong Kong resident more worried about the bully within than the bully without? Ask a Uigher or some member of Russia the same question. Why is Federalism or any other combination of statism assumed to be better than the single entity? If population was the issue how the heck did such a 'small' country as the UK once control so much of the world? (I'm merely using that as evidence, not advocating anything) Answer: industrialisation, development, and MOST importantly a small structure at the top with speed and agility to adapt quickly to what ever circumstances unfolded. How do competitors take on conglomerates in the business world? By being smaller and more agile, quicker to detect the advantages. Country-size is not a basis for some prejudicial decision to amalgamate. It smacks of defeatism just to say 'it's all too much' and give up. It's a much more nuanced scenario than this simple spectrum of opinionated size. Relationships, trust, mutuality and trade-centricity are not in any way the absolute of larger states, federalism etc. even if they are necessities for populations to get on in the world. Enforced institutions are guarantees of that outcome. For individuals, in the spectrum there will be optimum 'sizes' but I'll bet it's a bell-curve rather than a one-size fits all at the largest end.
 
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  • Jan 5, 2022 10:31am Jan 5, 2022 10:31am
  •  JotaP
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Feb 2021 | 276 Comments
SWOT analysis have been made, someone should have read them and saw enough strengths to compensate the weaknesses.
Anyway, I don't think the EU would be happy to have the UK back in spite of all the love it deserves.
Like some relatives we have.
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  • Jan 5, 2022 11:24am Jan 5, 2022 11:24am
  •  turnip15
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{quote} That's such a narrow-minded approach to the issue and it should be far more nuanced than this chosen proposed black-and-white justification. How does one measure size? Is it population, GDP or status of developed or advanced economies? I suspect that population is the selected spectrum in the statement. Is Japan worried about being bullied on a daily basis, or Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Canada, Switzerland and so on? Are they the poorer as a result? Is a Hong Kong resident more worried about the bully within than the bully without?...
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Your talking of the past. Colonialism and gun boat diplomacy no longer work for countries like the UK. Japan is not free to do as it wants: the USA etc prevent them having equality of arms etc. The other countries you posit have alliances, have size or desired products/skills.. When Trump said he would prefer the UK out of the EU that , to many, was a good pointer that he would love to pick off individual countries to improve the economic reach of the USA. The media programmes of the West didn't show the many Hong Kong residents that were happy with their lot, only the noisy demonstrators. Even big countries have their problems, like the USA where the Whitehouse was stormed so no country is perfect. Thus democracy is not the only or best way to govern. The UK would be better off as part of a large economic group such as the EU rather than have to make deals on trade etc with bigger countries. If you understand anything about the EU it is about economics, travel, law, sharing etc. TRADE.
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  • Jan 5, 2022 11:53am Jan 5, 2022 11:53am
  •  DaJoWaBa
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{quote} Your talking of the past. Colonialism and gun boat diplomacy no longer work for countries like the UK. Japan is not free to do as it wants: the USA etc prevent them having equality of arms etc. The other countries you posit have alliances, have size or desired products/skills.. When Trump said he would prefer the UK out of the EU that , to many, was a good pointer that he would love to pick off individual countries to improve the economic reach of the USA. The media programmes of the West didn't show the many Hong Kong residents that were...
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Then we agree on the fact that size isn't the only factor, which wasn't apparent in your earlier post. Yes, trade and all the other factors in your list are important but it doesn't mean one follows the other, that's all. I remain unconvinced about the EU being a vehicle for moving forward and adapting to the future any more than I am the opposite, of creating the right environment for development and business growth rather than ensuring the levelling down and protection. All of the features you address are not absolute to the EU. Countries can do all of that without being part of a homogeny. It's not exclusive and the result can not be determined in one year, two years or even a political cycle. Trade Blocs are good, don't get me wrong, IF they are about genuine progressive intent and that CAN be managed without the necessity for political monopoly. Trade Blocs or, even better, Treaty Agreements involving a multitude of states, whether across the Pacific, across the Americas or even in Africa will come to prove or disprove that theory. There are benefits and disadvantages. Happy trading.
 
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  • Jan 6, 2022 2:40am Jan 6, 2022 2:40am
  •  mrcreosote
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the UK is dead when the BOE stop QE.....the coffers are empty and have been for years due to 'boomer robbery'....and the welfare bill gets bigger and bigger due to gimmigrants
RIP England, it was nice knowing you
used to be undecided but nowadays can't make my mind up
 
 
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  • Jan 6, 2022 6:08am Jan 6, 2022 6:08am
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I can just imagine the UK after the North Sea oil and gas revenues subside
 
 
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