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  • UK's Johnson says prepare for no EU trade deal after Brexit

    *U.K.'S JOHNSON SAYS PREPARE FOR NO EU TRADE DEAL AFTER BREXIT

    — sellvolbuytesla (@sellvolbuytesla) December 10, 2020
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  • BREXIT: UK PM JOHNSON SAYS CABINET AGREED DEAL ON TABLE IS NOT RIGHT FOR UK #News #Forex #UK #BREXIT #JOHNSON

    — Capital Hungry (@Capital_Hungry) December 10, 2020
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  • UK's PM Johnson: The EU plan on equivalence is not a sensible way to proceed, keeps us locked in EU orbit.#Breaking #Brexit $GBP

    — FXGlobe Market News (@Fxglobe_1) December 10, 2020
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  • Brexit: 'Strong possibility' of no trade deal with EU - PM

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    Boris Johnson says there is a "strong possibility" the UK will fail to strike a post-Brexit trade agreement with the EU. The prime minister said "now is the time" for businesses and the public to prepare for that outcome, although negotiators would continue talks. He added that negotiations were "not yet there at all". It comes after his meeting on Wednesday with the president of the EU Commission failed to reach a breakthrough. Weeks of intensive talks between officials have failed to overcome obstacles in key areas including competition rules and fishing rights. In his first public comments since Wednesday ... (full story)

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  • Dec 10, 2020 1:02pm Dec 10, 2020 1:02pm
  •  kostas1
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: I know that I know nothing | 59 Comments
and who is sellvolbuytesla ??
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  •  mraa
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It was posted on bbc.co.uk
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  •  Dr.Zain
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Bunch of Clowns!!!!
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  •  Mattmee
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Quoting kostas1
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and who is sellvolbuytesla ??
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Maybe they want us to sell Volvo and buy Tesla. LOL.
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  •  Deanaloserij
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Should this have a big impact on EURGBP
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  •  swing77
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ok.....hmmm i pre-pared for change the net for the #GBP
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  •  swing77
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add on all #GBP pair's all-in mode
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  •  Deanaloserij
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Quoting swing77
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add on all #GBP pair's all-in mode
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what do you think wil happen, A drop or a spike
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  •  Onyishi
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Quoting Deanaloserij
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{quote} what do you think wil happen, A drop or a spike
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A drop in GBP is definitely coming. (My view)
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  •  harcos
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Quoting Dr.Zain
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Bunch of Clowns!!!!
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Bunch of clowns is incorrect, when you are referring to a group of clowns the correct term is a "Clown Alley"
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  •  Deanaloserij
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It's almost a probability now that a no deal is guaranteed . Both sides are preparing for the consequences and maybe after reflection they might reconsider their own stance . I think from a UK point of view , ie a few months of logistical changes , we ( the UK ) , won't come back to the negotiating table . It might take us a year to adjust but I genuinely think we'll flourish outside the EU framework . We'll be a nimble , large scale economy and can adjust our metrics/standards accordingly . Here's what the EU are now doing . Brussels wants continued...
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so you think also GBP will drop
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  •  NotBoris
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The deluded fools....
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  •  Dr.Zain
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Quoting harcos
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{quote} Bunch of clowns is incorrect, when you are referring to a group of clowns the correct term is a "Clown Alley"
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I mean EU and UK both Lol
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  •  Nick.
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I think the UK giving up fisheries in order to have a free trade deal with the EU would have been a good deal for the UK. A no-deal Brexit is bad for both sides period. But I can't help but think that it might be a little worst for the UK. Only time will tell.
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  •  swd
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Quoting Vancarbon
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It's almost a probability now that a no deal is guaranteed . Both sides are preparing for the consequences and maybe after reflection they might reconsider their own stance . I think from a UK point of view , ie a few months of logistical changes , we ( the UK ) , won't come back to the negotiating table . It might take us a year to adjust but I genuinely think we'll flourish outside the EU framework . We'll be a nimble , large scale economy and can adjust our metrics/standards accordingly . Here's what the EU are now doing . Brussels wants continued...
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Yes, agreed. I remember a fair bit of inflammatory language going on in this news area when "EU bullying" was mentioned. Well this is what I would consider "bullying". Bigger, stronger and richer than the UK, EU simply trying to push the UK around.
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  •  swd
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Van, to a point it's a bit like an old friendship. When there is a break up (of sorts) there can be bitterness and even nastiness. The way you described it fits with my feelings about how this is going to turn out. Being the first out of the bloc the UK were always going to have it hard to deter any like-minded country from doing the same. I have gone from wanting an amicable settlement to wanting OUT now at any cost. There really is no way back for the UK without looking like complete fools, UK has to go all the way. So much for the EU being committed to liberalising world trade beyond it's borders lol !
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  •  Ffoorreexx
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UK before Brexit: We are most powerful, riches, strongest country on this planet we do not need those broke, corrupt, nasty Europeans .

UK after Brexit: Poor little Britain why everyone trying to hurt us and treating us unfairly .
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  •  Steamroller
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USA before 2000: we are the most powerful, richest, strongest country on this planet.

USA 2020: dollar imploding, 3T budget deficit, falling educational standards, close to civil war.

Elon is your saving grace.
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  •  trumps
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...and, when the big selloff occurs, it's best to prepare for more negotiations....
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  •  NotBoris
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The deluded fools, behaving exactly like the little trumpeters, crying foul of its own demise!
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  •  RossEdwards
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The campaign of mis-information which has marked the entire brexit process is now being unleashed by pro-brexit UK media and the inevitable deterioration and thrashing of EU/UK relations will result which will blight EU/UK relation for a decade. AKA the blame game.
Putin couldnt have written a better script to degrade the Wests cohesion if he tried.
That spreading of misinformation has already started.
I read this morning an allegation posted by a respected member, that the EU will prevent airlines flying to the EU. And a similar allegation that the EU with cooperation from the French/Belgian/Dutch Governments will blockade UK ports.
Both make for inflating the "Bully" narrative but both are UK media propagated lies.
In the case of No-deal Brexit aviation.. the EU released contingency Regulations yesterday 10th December, to ensure basic air connectivity between the UK and the EU and allowing recognition of UK licences and registrations in the event that no free trade agreement is reached. Absent an agreement covering air traffic rights, flights between the UK and EU would have been otherwise grounded since certificates, licences, and registrations would no longer be recognized in their respective counterpart jurisdiction.
In the matter of port Blockades.. the poster is referring to a threat of illegal protest action by French Fishermen to impede operations in French ports which is not EU policy and would damage EU interests.

Of all the misrepresentation plastered on the UK public in the last 4 years the most dangerous has been the delusion that brexit negotiations would be a simple business because UK held all the cards.
The unhappy reality is and always has been that UK has been dealing from a empty deck throughout.
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  •  Sennerd
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Traders trade. Losers write.
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  •  NotBoris
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This was the conservatives pledge before election 2019......just a reminder to the deluded bunch
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  •  Sennerd
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And the manifesto?
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Hey,Rossi!!??!! You know there was a referendum,right??..On one of your recent 'rivetingly incisive' posts,you said that adaptation is a key feature of success in trading.You have spent four years...four years!! failing to adapt,buddy!!
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  •  RossEdwards
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Traders trade. Losers write.
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Not all successful traders are illiterate.
And if you handle others folks money then being literate is part of the job.
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  •  RossEdwards
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This was the conservatives pledge before election 2019......just a reminder to the deluded bunch {image}
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Imagine their excitement when the Oven-Ready-Deal box is opened.. and theres NOTHING inside..
And THEN the story will be..its all those dastardly "Forrigners" fault! Bullying us. Started already!!

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  •  NotBoris
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{quote} Imagine their excitement when the Oven-Ready-Deal box is opened.. and theres NOTHING inside.. And THEN the story will be..its all those dastardly "Forrigners" fault! Bullying us. Started already!!
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It's the ignorance and arrogance that fusioned into the word "bullying by EU" for this bunch of deluded bunch....
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  •  The Doji
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[quote=RossEdwards;13308096]The campaign of mis-information which has marked the entire brexit process i

FYI there was no mis-information regarding Brexit. The process began with Edward Heath - lying to the British public to join what was the Common Market. Successive governments ceded both fiscal and political power via a number of treaties (which were voted down in at least three countries but the electorate were made to vote again because it was the wrong outcome). We have the European Courts dictating policy with the authority to overrule our own High Courts - one of the most respected and long-standing judicial bodies in the world. Several QC's have told me in person that quite a number of the European "judges" are simply not fit for practice.
Then we come to the Common Agricultural Policy - one of the greatest abuses of money and power ever. In the 80's nearly 75% of the EU budget was spent on the CAP primarily for the benefit of French and German farmers (due to a high concentration of small holdings). The CAP decimated British farming - which I know personally as we had a substantial fruit farm in Kent - but no more. I am still in contact with some farmers and preferential practice - especially by the French, is still taking place to this day.
I could go on but I think you get my drift.
The reason that the UK/EU is at this impasse now is due to the the many lily-livered individuals that could not accept the referendum result and tried to nullify it at every turn. Had all the UK population united behind the country and got on with the process from the outset - rather than obstruct it, then we would be in a far better position today.
I concur that free trade and movement across Europe with a common legal framework for cross-border trade is a good concept but not some socialist, omnipotent (and largely unelected) body that wants to control all member states and strip away their self governance.
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  •  RossEdwards
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The campaign of mis-information which has marked the entire brexit process i FYI there was no mis-information regarding Brexit. ..
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Of course not...

Boris Johnson, 26/6/16 “British people will still be able to go and work in the EU; to live; to travel; to study; and buy homes and settle down. There will continue to be free trade and access to the single market”..

John Redwood, 17/7/16.“Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy - the UK holds most of the cards”.

Micheal Gove 3/3/19
..we didn’t vote to leave without a deal. That wasn’t the message of the campaign I helped lead. During that campaign, we said we should do a deal with the EU and be part of the network of free trade deals that covers all Europe, from Iceland to Turkey. Leaving without a deal .... would not honour that commitment.
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  •  The Doji
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Ross, you seem to be convinced that the British public made their decision to leave after Cameron announced the referendum - they did not. As I alluded to, there are many salient reasons why the Leave vote won and it was not a result of platitudes or diatribe or even slogans but many, many years of excessive and wasteful spending, power grabbing and erosion of sovereignty. The decision was apparent at least a decade ago.
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