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  • Raab: UK Doing Everything We Can To Reach Brexit Deal

    UK’s Raab: Not Spoken To PM Johnson Since Dinner But He Had Frank Discussion
    -Not Going To Sacrifice Basic Points Of Democratic Principle
    -UK Doing Everything We Can To Reach Brexit Deal

    — LiveSquawk (@LiveSquawk) December 10, 2020
Added at 2:43am
  • UK’s Raab: Significant Differences Remain With EU In Trade Talks
    -Clearly Scope To Keep Talking Though
    -Needs To Come A Point Where Decide On Future Of Negotiations

    — LiveSquawk (@LiveSquawk) December 10, 2020
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  • $GBPUSD | UK’s Raab: Unlikely We Extend Trade Talks With EU After Sunday
    -But Cannot Rule Out Talks Won’t Be Extended

    — LiveSquawk (@LiveSquawk) December 10, 2020
Added at 2:44am
  • UK’s Raab: Rapidly Reaching Point We Need Finality On EU UK Talks

    — LiveSquawk (@LiveSquawk) December 10, 2020
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  • Edited 4:57am Dec 10, 2020 4:13am | Edited 4:57am
  •  NotBoris
  • | Joined Jul 2019 | Status: Member | 1420 Comments
The democratic principle was that you lot lied and lied and repeat.....period.

Raab also said that, for a deal to happen, there would have to be “substantial movement” from the EU.

Do UK holds the cards, any cards?? No I don't think so and it is not difficult to see why not.

Am sure the deluded will say I am spurting rubbish, as usual.
 
 
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  • Dec 10, 2020 5:42am Dec 10, 2020 5:42am
  •  turnip15
  • Joined Sep 2006 | Status: Member | 532 Comments
Can someone tell Rab and the other Eton educated buffoons that the UK is now a small Island with no influence. it is laughed at or pushed aside by the bigger guys like the US or Russia or the EU etc. Perhaps the Uk would have been better to stay in the big gang (EU) where size matters regarding finance, trade and influence.
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
 
 
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  • Dec 10, 2020 5:54am Dec 10, 2020 5:54am
  •  NotBoris
  • | Joined Jul 2019 | Status: Member | 1420 Comments
Quoting turnip15
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Can someone tell Rab and the other Eton educated buffoons that the UK is now a small Island with no influence. it is laughed at or pushed aside by the bigger guys like the US or Russia or the EU etc. Perhaps the Uk would have been better to stay in the big gang (EU) where size matters regarding finance, trade and influence.
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It will be the ones, who are not financially abled, who voted for brexit that will suffer the most in the end. Likewise the rest of us will suffer together with these lot too.....darn it!
 
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  • Dec 10, 2020 6:20am Dec 10, 2020 6:20am
  •  JackintheBox
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It will be the ones, who are not financially abled, who voted for brexit that will suffer the most in the end.

The fun part is: Of course to Brexit Vote the people were sure to have an Trade Agreement with EU when Brexit happens. No one knew that Johnson and EU are so mad. I think 80 or even 90% of UK-Citizens didn't want that outcome if Brexit happens now without a deal.

Both sides will suffer deeply. Shame on EU and Johnson to treat people so badly, so much time was left. Shame on you.
 
 
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  • Dec 10, 2020 6:49am Dec 10, 2020 6:49am
  •  NotBoris
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{quote} The fun part is: Of course to Brexit Vote the people were sure to have an Trade Agreement with EU when Brexit happens. No one knew that Johnson and EU are so mad. I think 80 or even 90% of UK-Citizens didn't want that outcome if Brexit happens now without a deal. Both sides will suffer deeply. Shame on EU and Johnson to treat people so badly, so much time was left. Shame on you.
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The following abstract were what prominent brexiteers bragged and promoted about to the deluded bunch, they never understood "united we stand, divided we fall" - heyho we have to be dragged down by them too.

Liam Fox

"The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history."

The then international trade secretary made the declaration during a radio interview in 2017.

Boris Johnson

"There is no plan for no deal, because we’re going to get a great deal."

Said during his time as foreign secretary. Johnson assured Britons there was no need to plan for a no-deal scenario. His statement was quickly slapped down by Theresa May’s Downing Street, who insisted that “contingency planning is taking place for a range of scenarios”.

Michael Gove

"The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want."

A month before the EU referendum, Gove, now the chancellor of the duchy of Lancaster, insisted the UK would “hold all the cards” if it voted to leave the EU.

John Redwood

"Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy – the UK holds most of the cards."

The Conservative MP wrote of his confidence about the Brexit negotiations in July 2016, less than a month after the referendum result. “Too many people in government and the professions seem to think the UK is a weak petitioner which has to be very careful in case we are expelled from the single market,” he said.

Paul Nuttall

"It will be easy to negotiate these terms, it will be easy to negotiate a trade deal, and of course, it is in European Union’s interest just as much as it is in ours."

Such was the confidence of the then Ukip leader during an interview with BBC Radio 4 on 17 January 2017. He went on to say he was “not trepidatious about this in any way, shape or form.”

Nigel Farage

"To me, Brexit is easy … We have back British passports, we have control of our fishing waters, and our companies are not subject to EU law through the single market."

Said by the man who largely led the charge for Brexit, back in 2016.

Gerard Batten

"What you could do in an afternoon, which won’t take two years, is to say to the European Union: ‘We want to continue with tariff-free trade and so do you, because it’s in your interest.’ "
 
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  • Dec 10, 2020 7:01am Dec 10, 2020 7:01am
  •  DaJoWaBa
  • Joined Sep 2018 | Status: Member | 646 Comments
I have 2 responses to the above comments, not specific to hose who have made them. It could easily be many others making the same comments:

1) 98% of the deal is apparently sorted but the remainder is an issue of principle. Now, irrespective of my thoughts on those principles, the problem is that principles do matter and sometimes they can't be bridged or resolved. Sometimes appeasement is the wrong approach, sometimes compromise is the right one. No one at the start of negotiations or before the referendum would have been able to state that 98% was 'easily' done and 2% not, whichever side of the argument one may have been, so I don't take notice any more of the the incessant barbs and jibes. It is what it is and it leads me on to the second point.
2) Whatever you think might have been the UK's standing as one of 28 nations in the EU or as one out of it before or after Brexit, it sill has lots of significance and voice, despite people wanting to belittle it. It still has a large economy near the top pf the league table and totally irrespective of whether it's in or out of the EU, it will slip in the table purely because India has awoken and is climbing and non-Chinese Asian countries like S.Korea are all growing with advantageous demographics, unlike the whole of the western world . But here's the thing, irrespective of how you voted or what your comparisons between the past and present, you don't know how the future will play out, guaranteed, and wallowing in some form of destructive, self-congratulatory, hateful campaign will suck the life out of you and anyone else when everyone in the UK will need to get a grip with the cards in the deck, move on and be positive about how they CAN make and improve the UK's lot. If you want to believe the worst and preach the worst and you want bad things to happen to prove you right, you will have wasted your life and if everyone does that you'll possibly get that negative result you crave. Believe me when I say that's nearly always the reason why businesses fail: they dwell too much on the past and present instead of facing up to the future and moulding the future to the best effect. Positivity, developing new strategies to cope with the always-evolving circumstances, believing in them and being determined to see them out is always the best way forward. The same goes for countries and governments.
Please do yourselves a favour and look forward with positivity: you WILL feel much better for it and you'll make better decisions as a result. It will also spare a whole lot of us from reading this constant negativity and annoying us like someone standing in front of us tapping our foreheads. You're absolutely entitled to your opinions and I read most of these in order to learn NEW things but get disappointed by having to wade through the same statements again and again over a 4-5 year period.
Happy and successful trading to you and best wishes to you in your search for a more prosperous and happier future.
 
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  • Dec 10, 2020 7:10am Dec 10, 2020 7:10am
  •  NotBoris
  • | Joined Jul 2019 | Status: Member | 1420 Comments
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I have 2 responses to the above comments, not specific to hose who have made them. It could easily be many others making the same comments: 1) 98% of the deal is apparently sorted but the remainder is an issue of principle. Now, irrespective of my thoughts on those principles, the problem is that principles do matter and sometimes they can't be bridged or resolved. Sometimes appeasement is the wrong approach, sometimes compromise is the right one. No one at the start of negotiations or before the referendum would have been able to state that 98%...
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Just responding to one point of yours, "Please do yourselves a favour and look forward with positivity: you WILL feel much better for it and you'll make better decisions as a result."

I am always positive no matter how shit the road ahead is - but this is not the point. When these politicians lie and lie again, how positive do you want me to be with the bumpy road ahead?

brexit vote is over, it's no use crying of split milk. What I am simply raising is the words and actions of politicians that no one is holding them accountable to and for. The folks that are going to be impacted and worst off are the lower end of the society.

UK being one of the top of the league table globally, I have to agree to disagree on this aspect. It has started eroding off, just like America - when the world allows populist in, the world will have to stomach such populist rhetorical claims.

Also, it is good to know what happened in the past and state the past facts as humans are generally forgetful creatures.

BTW, am done for the morning trade from last night. Happy trading
 
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  • Dec 10, 2020 7:31am Dec 10, 2020 7:31am
  •  DaJoWaBa
  • Joined Sep 2018 | Status: Member | 646 Comments
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{quote} Just responding to one point of yours, "Please do yourselves a favour and look forward with positivity: you WILL feel much better for it and you'll make better decisions as a result." I am always positive no matter how shit the road ahead is - but this is not the point. When these politicians lie and lie again, how positive do you want me to be with the bumpy road ahead? brexit vote is over, it's no use crying of split milk. What I am simply raising is the words and actions of politicians that no one is holding them accountable...
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Yay! Good. Constructive response, always welcome. I can agree with much of what you state and I wholeheartedly agree that lessons can be learned from the past but as traders we all know that whilst history rhymes it never foretells, a bit like MA's, for instance. Profiting from trading and profiting as a business in an economy blown by the winds are distinct. Happy trading to you too.
 
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  • Dec 10, 2020 7:42am Dec 10, 2020 7:42am
  •  NotBoris
  • | Joined Jul 2019 | Status: Member | 1420 Comments
Quoting DaJoWaBa
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{quote} Yay! Good. Constructive response, always welcome. I can agree with much of what you state and I wholeheartedly agree that lessons can be learned from the past but as traders we all know that whilst history rhymes it never foretells, a bit like MA's, for instance. Profiting from trading and profiting as a business in an economy blown by the winds are distinct. Happy trading to you too.
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It's been a while since I look at MA's, it has always been there on my screen for many years when I first started but never offer too much as an indicator for me these past few years.
 
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  • Dec 10, 2020 8:47am Dec 10, 2020 8:47am
  •  DaJoWaBa
  • Joined Sep 2018 | Status: Member | 646 Comments
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{quote} It's been a while since I look at MA's, it has always been there on my screen for many years when I first started but never offer too much as an indicator for me these past few years.
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Very sensible.
 
 
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