Hey Ghous . . . you gotta like this IPB (G-Bar) on the Weekly Nzd/Usd.
Wedge breakout / pullback with PA (I consider it PA) and there's bit of PPZ at the .7150. IPB on many feeds.
Should be fun to watch.
uhh...tough call for me, honestly speaking I really have dug in trying to decipher the dynamics of the system I have been working on, a lot of trade decisions and thought processes some of which I dispel here at the thread are engineered one way or the other with the methods of this new system.
I see and understand well, all the pluses you point out Jarroo, just something here will still hold me from pulling the trigger on this.
In recent time I have really been keen on placing bets on setups that IMO synchronize with the on going and preceding price action particularly around the 2 EMAs that I use.
For example on the Nu I don't like how price was nicely up trending then pulled back to the 0.66 gave off a buob then looks to continue with the trend, furthermore the constriction of the 2 EMAs round about where the IPB low goes is also of some discomfort for me.
Don't take me wrong, I am obviously not dumping the Nu IPB just that it lacks the "finishing touch" which would match the conservatism that I use to trade IPBs and allow me to pull the trigger.
I'd be happier than ever to see Monday go on and test the IPB low.
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I am a silent reader of this golden Hen thread and now wants to break the ice.
you people have given so much here that I dont have any words. Esp. James,Jarroo, Mbqb, Mike W, S.C.you derseve more than V, I think the 10SV+ super vouches.
Sincerely want to thank you and others , now I am able to make 5 to 8 % a month stress free and with huge funds, that is more than enough for me and my organisation without any stress. I will drop the chart or trades as and when time allows me. This thread is the only I have seen...
Wonderful!
The statement:...
Quote:
w I am able to make 5 to 8 % a month stress free and with huge funds
...just made my day.
Welcome to the group!
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I know what it is g . . . it the size of the IPB . . . a bit too small. That's was my conern as well. The IPB on Weekly Gold is the same thing. Everything looks good but the size is a bit small. One good quality that PA can't have enough of is good big size. (That's what she said)
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Oh well Gold just made me stop,
Don't watch gold, and just pulled it up after I saw your chart.
It's definitely a lot lot better in terms of the general flow of price (the way I see it) compared to the Nu, could have been longer still as you mentioned but I like the way how the low goes almost down to the previous bar's low.
Got to saw a nice one after quite some time.
Going to throw in a small position to see what selling gold feels like.
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Hi guys,
Post summaries by the more senior folk here. A tad late cause the software's been buggy and annoying as anything.
If there are people you think I've missed out, pse PM me.
Hope this helps everyone. I'll stick the link for this post into the 1st page link.
Edit: Oh wait. Nasir! It's your post. LOL.
Internal files are compressed using Winrar.
(I hv also been told to not distribute the software, so no more PMs about that pse)
That's really cool Cyrus,
Thank you for your time and this wonderful software!
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That's one choppy beast which worked for the better for you
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firstly, thanks to Jim and all the seniors for the PA thread , i am learning loads, not with much success but im still here
ok, been looking at this for a while, praying for PA to give me an entry,
given the pbs close is equal to or higher than the open i have the following reasons to take it
1. Long nose
2. Off a 4.5 year low
3. Off a PPZ
4. Close to 365 MA
5. Off a SW low
6. In space
Trouble Areas
1. 1.25000
2. 1.28065
Whats your thoughts?
hey there,
Let's take a look at the factors you pointed out:
1) Long nose. Sure? The purpose of the long nose is to provide the bar with that authoritative look and the size to match the trend it is looking to reverse. When you are judging the length of the nose of a PB refrain from making wild guesses based on how long it appears to be in isolation to preceding price action. The relative measure of matching the size of the bar (along with the nose) with the bars preceding it can be an accurate way to judge a pin bar. Look at the size of your bar and match it with the bar preceding it and you'll know what i mean.
2) Off a 4.5 year low. umm...ok.
3) Off a PPZ. 1.2 Agreed.
4) Close to 365 MA Ok.
5) Off a SW low. the swing low is yet to be proven and that can come along only if the Pin bar works and that will depend on all the other factors.
6) In space Definitely not. Space is the area between your trade entry and the first trouble area, in this case it's minimal so you actually don't have enough space to play around with unless you want to enter at the break of 1.25 which would be roughly about a 100 points above the 1.25 BRN
hope that helps a bit.
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so ive learnt we need the nose to be long , in relative terms with the other preceding bars
and, we need there to be space (like a run) between entry and the first TA
when Jim refers to taking some off the table and moving the SL, he is referring to taking advantage of this space (a run) and then waiting to see how Price reacts with the first TA,
could I wait to see if the first TA1 gets broken then acts as support before entering?
In this case yes that would be a good idea, to just stay aside until the FTA which is very close get's broken and sustains that break. It in turn will also ensure that the setup you are looking to go for is really valid and has order flow in it's favor.
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Don't watch gold, and just pulled it up after I saw your chart.
It's definitely a lot lot better in terms of the general flow of price (the way I see it) compared to the Nu, could have been longer still as you mentioned but I like the way how the low goes almost down to the previous bar's low.
Got to saw a nice one after quite some time.
Going to throw in a small position to see what selling gold feels like.
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Stop at BE.
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I think it goes back to what we were talking about in the pf. A range is showing us accumulation/distribution (or, if you prefer, basing/topping*) and so by taking this bar, you are shorting straight into buyers who are just waiting to absorb the orders (ie, what we call a PPZ).
* while I think acc/dec is more accurate, I am a Stan fan and always have been
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Ok guys. I'll update all the future posts summaries here in future so everyone can reference them easier.
Erm, big man James16, if you could do me a favour and stick this
somewhere along the lines here where Nasir referenced them, it'd allow me to go back and update it so I don't have to trouble Nasir or SupremeChaos.
I'll reedit this post once it's at the right place.
Thanks to Nasir and SC thus far for referencing them....
Hey buddy that looks like a good software you have there,
just pmed you, if you don't mind.
lol
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Did you play this as a breakout trade? It looks to me as if you entered on the retrace. Or did you use the inside bar to line up your entry?
Thanks,
John
Both.
I-lot's of-B at a BO + Pull back to the wedge.
Is also a valid trade as per my system based on the 2 MAs, so goes into my journal at the pf as well.
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Kinda like the IPB PMs you've been getting huh?
Was reading some of your old posts btw. Spoke to me in a different way from when I first started off here. It's been a year already... or abit more. Time flies doesn't it?
It sure does,
Back in Feb 2008 I made my first post here on the thread, asking what a pin bar is, and what James meant by the word "confluence".
really can't believe it's been more than 2 years since.
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Why are you talking about the major uptrend when you are taking a trade based on a 4 hour chart? I have my USDCHF chart opened all the time and I can see a very steep downtrend from 1.17 to where we are now. I think the seniors will tell you the same thing I did in my previous post. If by wise you mean having the same opinion as you then I'm afraid noone can help you. Even if this trade does work out the way you hope it will, it will still be a low probability setup meaning that you will only learn to take a bad trade if this one succeeds.
Wowo! Easy ppl.
No problem in using a long term factor as one for confluence in taking a lower time frame trade.
Yes we are at a significant position in terms of the long term view, but Bug is right when he says the Pin bar is small.
So clearly it isn't the type 3 trade/A+ trade where both the location and the PA bar rocks. It's only the location in this case and a moderate sized pin bar, definitely not untradable but less than A+ for sure.
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I seem to remember not to long ago that someone asked the question "what is the reason behind pinbars?" or "what causes pinbars to form?"
Someone (I think it was Mbqb11) answered it really well, but now I can't find the post. I searched back through Mbqb11's past 300+ posts and couldn't find it, so either it was someone else who answered or I just missed it.
Does anyone have a link to that post or did anyone save his answer and can copy/paste it here? If so, I would greatly appreciate it.
I feel like I'm going insane because I know I read...
I am sure Mike and the other guys would have done this before, but I'll give it a shot for you.
There is no implicit divine voodoo behind the working of pin bars.
Here's how and why they work:
scene 1: price is nicely trending. Been blowing through minor trouble areas and good solid momentum is with one of either parties.
scene 2: Price is looking to approach an important location marked by a BRN PPZ, the 50 fib or maybe even some MA.
scene 3: Strong momentum hurls price into the price pivot zone and Voila! The location responds and we see that there were opposite orders stacked at the level that have now have been hit. That "hitting" of the latest order flow is what causes the bar to then close near it's low/open or high/close. And it's this change of sentiment coded in price bars that is of special interest to technical traders particularly J16ers.
Simple.
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For a confluence between a BRN and a Fib line (like the chart posted by Jaroo) how many pips difference between those two that we could still consider them a confluence? Would an 11 pips difference be okay? For example a BRN of 80.00 and a fib 50% line of 79.89; is that a confluence?
It's really just a visual thing, there is no hard and fast rule as to the diff in pips between 2 confluence factors. You just gotta let your naked eye tell you that when you see PA develop at this confluence zone. It's always good to see the PA bar stretch out to touch each of the confluence factors, but a confluence factor near it will do just fine. Key word here being "near" it which is just a visual idea and not in any way near in terms of pips.
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yea i was wondering if that would be valid alright. im guessing following the post on why pin bars work, that different clsing times might present equally as valid opportunites. does anyone here trade of multiple closing time charts ?
Firstly, if you are trading anything 1H or below you will mostly always get the same bars on all brokers that's because all brokers close at the same time on the 1H and below, the only minor differences that appear are then the result of tits and bits of differences in the data feed of diff brokers.
As for higher time frames, you might want to look at multiple feeds to catch PA across diff feeds, but it's not mandatory because an opportunity on broker 1 only will later follow with an opportunity on broker 2 only so at the end of the day both traders get roughly equal shots at the market.
Again if you feel going through diff broker feeds and platforms is worth the hassle by all means go for it.
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Thought I'd post this IPB I took. The only chart I looked at last night and this caught my eye. Thanks Ghous! got 50pips on this one.
I call these "Ronco" trades "Just set it and forget it" LOL
Interesting.
Somebody here took the IPB on GBP/CAD which prompted me to compare your setup with this failed IPB,
This is important - very IMPORTANT!
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I thought i would share couple of things i?ve found useful. Trading is hard psychologically and these simple things help me along basic trading psychology things
Beginners should start from longer timeframe and i like long timeframes anyway, so first picture is how i make myself not to even touch those smaller timeframes. Many can work great with multitimeframes (confirmation etc.) but for me it?s kind of disturbing.. I need to focus on one timeframe to keep this business simple...
lol.
That's a great advice nuclear, and your English isn't bad at all.
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First Target met and Stop moved to BE
Such a strong move up is likely to retrace at some point, but I won't let this one lose now
We have the Daily BUOB now but a break and close above the 1.5130 highs is what i'm hoping to see
Good going Johnny.
Love the way you read this thing to perfection.
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simple trade on d1. "double low higher close"
already about 300 pips in profit. keep it simple and stupid!
Woot!
That chart is just pure soft gold there!
Nothing beats the simplicity of this stuff.
Amazing!
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I took the weekly BUOB for EURUSD targeting 1.2700, 1.2900 and a trail for the rest if it breaks 1.3.
Your profit target looks nice. I'd like it to hit 1.27 today for 1/3 off the table and the rest moved to B/E.
Gosh I hope I'm not over trading, it doesn't feel right having so many trades going on with the rarity of really good set ups.
It is a good idea, to bring it down to a dichotomy.
Fine tune your system entry signals to a "Yes, this is a trade" and a "No, this isn't a trade"
The best part about doing this is that you eliminate discretion from your trading, discretion of marking a particular setup as A+ and another as B+ and maybe some other with say 2 set of confluences rather than 4 as C+.
If you already have been trading for a few months at least dig through your trades history and sniff out the patterns and trade setups that you seem to spot the most easily and are profitable for you, do the same with setups and patterns that have not been great for you. Bring things down to a yes or a no.
By doing this you don't end up sitting and wondering whether to pull the trigger or not, the setup is either yours or it's not - the result of that particular trade is obviously totally irrelevant to your long term progress, what is relevant is your own trading system, and it makes a world of difference when this trading system isn't based on "Oh, well, I'll see what the setup looks like then and there" but rather on "I need X and Y and Z for a trade to qualify, I get that I am in else I am out". Of course in time you can learn to bend the rules a bit in certain situations but let experience develop your mind first.
Another huge plus of applying this dichotomy is that you end up passing a lot more setups because a lot of them are found to be "slightly deficient" and hence the coin lands on the side which says "No trade" instead of you pulling the trigger and thinking..."I'll kill this trade at the FTA" or "I'll watch it like a hawk" or "I'll go with half the normal risk I use for my trades"
Just my 2cents regarding that feeling of over trading you've got.
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Yeah I saw it too ghous . . the IPB on the 8 hour chart . . nice confluences supporting it . . . lets see how it works out.
Bang!
As easy as it gets.
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Hi Ghous, Maybe a silly question but how did you play this one exactly?.. a break of the inside bar following the IPB with target of the top of the IPB as first target level? Thanks Shane
I didn't play this. You could say I missed it.
You play these at the close of the IPB with SL few pips beyond the shorter wick and TP just before the longer wick high/low.
Search through my posts with the keyword "IPB introduction"
But before you do that make sure you've read and understood the disclaimer in my sig.
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Hey Ghous any thoughts on that EU i posted above ?
A truly spectacular setup IMO. Will be watching for sure.
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hey pipmyride i was watching that setup on eu too im in scotland stayed up till 5 am looking for it to pop up too the 12720 area so missed that then got stopped out trying to short it, once i did get in i closed way too soon
How about moving to Pakistan? London starts 12 noon and Ny closes 10 pm.
lol
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12 noon is lunch time...
counter offer:
Frankfurt opens 2pm/London opens at 3pm here in SE Asia (im in the Philippines)
but, ghous, wow, NY starts at 5pm there?
(if im right, i am 3hours ahead of u; question, shouldnt NY close be somewhere around 2/3am there? Thanks)
Yup, around 1 am actually, but the markets do seem to slow down some time before that, so I hardly ever go beyond 9-10 pm to catch an hourly bar.
BTW Pakistan's tough a country to live in, really third world...I eventually plan to move out as well, SE Asia sure seems a good bet.
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I think I can safely say I'll never ever go back to using indicators :P
Now that's like being a J16er...welcome to the group of the fortunates!
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What I love about this style of trading is not having to watch and wait for price to reach a certain position. Just put on your stop buy/sell orders in the morning/evening, go to work chek every now and then to move to B/E and that's it. Of course I check it all the time (my broker (GFT) has an iphone app) but I'm trying really hard to wean myself off having to watch price do whatever it's doing in real time. Something that will come with experience I suppose.
Once I put on a trade order in the evening and it got filled and hit the target before...
Letting the trade play out as per plan is a very important part of successful trading, and it can get real tough if you're constantly hovering over the trade with shaky hands ever willing to manipulate the trade and manage it differently and supposedly more efficiently.
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i love to travel. if possible, i wanna visit most/every country. Pakistan is on the list, specially since i've known you & nasir. (of course, it's cheaper if we meet here )
both of u are First world-ers living in a third world
ghous is going to retire here, anyone else wanna live in a relatively VERY cheap & happy place?
Talking about cheap did I mention I can live a real happy life here in Pak with $1k a month?
what does your Phils offer Chaos?
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nyahahah,
$1000 a month? if i live alone & dont rent, i can use that to live here for about 4 - 9 months
(well i maybe an outlier since i can handle money well)
depending on your taste, lifestyle & personal circumstance, one can live off of $100 - 500 a month here. NO KIDDING!
for an individual, $300 - 1000 a month here is very comfortable living already, imho.
so, any other takers & contenders
Pack your bags now.........
Can't also beat the fact that your homeland's home to my favorite snake ever! (see below). I remember when I used to be at bob clark (snake breeder) forums we had this crazy guy from Manila, and damn he had some killer retics, ones I could die for , and they were wild caught and locally available to him.
Thise figures are slightly out of shape. a US$'s about slightly above 85 PKR currently...
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Saw you down there, and smiled as I posted that pic...trading's really making me get good at predicting things (maybe not the charts as much), that smile was because I knew something like this was coming
lol
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Python reticulatus?
haha. coincidentally, 2 days ago, we caught/killed what i believe is a baby retic. it was caught inside our house (seem to be living & moving to&from the kitchen sink & refrigerator).. ah there's more...he has a sibling, which we havent caught yet (living in the same area).
i live in a 'farm' now... yes, snakes are found here & in the wild. they come out specially during summer. i believe my relatives even caught/killed a Philippine cobra/spitting cobra a few years ago. (u must be by now, Ghous lol)
here,...
Cool!
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hey ghous, u changed the picture.
u really have tons of snake pics huh
A little over 500...
Considering the fact that it's all that I have to satiate my love for them, it's obviously nothing.
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your love for snakes is insatiable
btw, do u have more chart images saved or more snake pics saved?
Snake pics for sure!
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sorry to interrupt your snake stuff..
your thoughts on NZDUSD daily and AUDUSD daily..
AUDUSD h4 heavy divergence + lots pf indecision bars+ multimonth (3rd kiss) + perfect butterfly = short from here or wait to break .8650 level?
btw eurgbp still running ..damn
Nu's probably worth a look,
Small bar but I like it in terms of the overall action on the pair and the supporting confluences.
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a good example for a bearish ipb? (also notice the pb a fex days ago)!
You've got to be brave to trade a poor looking (small) IPB on stocks, these are non-liquid markets that can take out your tiny stop (in case of the IPB) literally by the market open gap.
I've never traded stocks so just commenting from what I've seen on stock charts when they are posted around.
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went on a spending spree tonight, got myself a nice 22" monitor and hooked it up as a dual with my 15.4" laptop screen..... wow.... should have done this a long time ago.
also bought the book "trade your way to financial freedom"
who says money can't buy happiness? lol!
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Duel screen is the way to go - especially for trading.
Are we posting up workstation pics?!
Nice trade plan.
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Hope my file is attached! Getting re-accquainted with this.
Thinking of taking this long based on IPB, at resistance near RN and managing it tightly as there is traffic to the left. SL under short wick. It is not at an extreme swing low but there is resistance there.
Demo only!!! I am comfortable with the basics and have been reading on here about the IPB.
This one's probably the neatest in quite some time...
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FiveEights, I was also thinking if it is ok to re-enter? Would need to think about it, for now it is not in my plan. And also what I think a lot about: Is it ok to take a Daily signal if/when the Weekly is showing kind of opposite price formation. Like now in eur/usd we have a Weekly BUOB from 06/27 isn't it still in play? Going short on daily is kind of "fading" this weekly bar?
Hey Adilius,
Re-entering is ok if the setup still has potential. So how do you gauge that? Look to enter again at a pin bar which has bounced off the FTA and has taken you out for BE? NO!
A great pin bar located brilliantly is a safe shot to the FTA, whatever it does after that has nothing to do with it's validity. Re-entering on a PA setup which has done it's thing (hit the FTA) just because you feel it's going to go down/up in your perceived direction may not be enough to pull a conservative trigger.
As for your second question, I tend to keep time frames separate. What's going on on a higher time frame is on my mind but it never pushes me to pull the trigger on a trade, or for that matter keep me from taking the trade. Every time frame has it's own trend, price action and market rhythm - but then again if it's a great weekly BEOB vs a feeble 4H bullish Pin bar, then the time frames need to be considered simultaneously. (Just the way I do things, may not necessarily be the only way)
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Ghous, thank you very much for your explanation and advice. I will include this in my plan now: I may re-enter if first target was not yet reached and the odds for good setups are still there. FTA = First target right? Ok. Sometimes I still have trouble assigning first and second target - trying to do it objectively, but sometimes there are quite a few zones that look as Price may stall there. I guess that will come from experience later.
Regarding higher TF, that makes sense to me yes. Well I also thought, if I set my stop at BE everytime,...
If the FTA (First trouble area) isn't obvious, this is the first real indication that you're trading into "traffic" or "lack of space" and that alone should keep you from taking the trade. Normally an upright and confident setup has a very clear FTA that a kid could spot, and it's these opps that are the most safest.
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Stop loss to Breakeven,
Playing with the house's money now
Wooww!!
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a pinbar rejecting from 111.00. tp at 112.40, stopp loss at the low of the pb.
opinions?
hey aserbfx,
That pin bar in my eyes lacks quite a bit, the nose could have been longer stretching down into the confluence zone I marked on my chart, or the entire bar itself could have been far better located if it was sitting on top of that confluence.
Also I see the pin bar as merely a retest of the consolidation box that price broke out of, a better close well above 111.5 could have helped the cause here IMHO.
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Seems like today it's my lucky day. Came across the computer exactly when great opportunities occurred and cached 3 of them in one day
EURGBP and GBPUSD I was late a bit and forced to enter at a retrace but still according to my rules. So 3 small gains for a total of 1.7R = 3.4%
Who says you need at least 1:1 ratio to make money follow the cart!!
Great, simple and effective stuff as usual Ben,
I gotta say I love your image file names. lol
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Ghous, I second a previous comment - thanks for this.
"trading into traffic" means approaching areas of support / resistance, and or round numbers, right? Is "lack of space" any different?
Thanks
Trading into traffic refers to trading straight into close by short term or long terms proven S/R flips and no, lack of space isn't any different to traffic.
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You guys just blow me away with your trading stations!
One day...one day...I'll post mine as well
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lol .. marketwise .. guess its summer over there eh
Hey PMR...
How's your Eu short doin'?
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I am working on learning Pin bars a little better....
hey there,
the bar on eur/gbp was a pin bar yes,but then it is looking to catch a falling knife without those protective gloves on. I mean the size of the bar is way too small IMHO to be worth a trade given the 3 hours of momentum to the downside prior to it. So what it only ended up doing was hit the FTA and bounce.
In considering the Au bar you are looking to get your hands at continuation Pin bars which can always be very tricky, they can be tricky because they can just as easily be a reversal signal which I call the IPB - again that is way too advanced for a person who is still pursuing the knowledge needed to rate pin bars. It would be great for you if you can focus on pin bars at wing highs and swing lows only or deep into pull backs to dominant trends for now.
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We are almost coming off a H&S type pattern, or at the least a very strong bearish look with the H&S pattern + the last few bars(arrows) that are very bearish. We want to think about reversal bars as "why is price looking to reverse here?" That is where location and confluence will piece in. Then we have to look like G said to the flip side of mgmt and what it is trading into.
Just an addition to Gs there
Mike
M's right as always
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Not necessarily something I would trade these days, but certainly take note off. I am long gbp/usd from a 4hr buob and more downside on eur/gbp would make sense for me along these lines(hopefully )
Mike
ooohh!!! Nice!
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I know I'm way too early, but a close like this would be much appreciated. Nice confluence with the .88 level. I'm sure I'll get an amen from Ghous for this IPB
Lot's of time to the daily bar close, looks like it's really pushing to go past those highs at 0.878ish region, let's see how things develop.
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Hey Ghous ... i didnt want to be subject to the weekend so i only left a teeny weeny piece on And its come back hard now anyway hasnt it
It has, but only after doing what was expected of it.
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anyone using parabolic sar (as an additional confirmation?)
You could add another 100 indies for that "further confirmation" and expect to make things more accurate and predictable - truth is nothing beats a pin bar at a swing high at a proven BRN with divergence.
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Edit: Not sure if it was good, but I moved to BE so it's free...
Very nice sir,
We had some great things going with this bar.
It's hitting the FTA and so I love the fact that it is now a free trade for you.
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I have to pay to play it, I was in, don't know if it can go further but this time i'm sitting tight
The close plays a big part in making a bar "strong" we had that elemant missing in this setup IMHO. Why do we need a strong close? Precisely because we are heading into an s/r flip which is all that important in a tight ranging chopping market such as the Usd/Cad these days. So strong close at or beyond the flip could have been a good indication that it is something worth little or no worry to price and the momentum to the upside is unhindered.
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