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Ultimate TRADE EA

two trades in GU, 10pips wins and 30pips loss.
Have you tested any "purchased robots?
this company iticsoftware.com have many advisors, and screens showing account balance. they showed an EA Stomper for mt4 or dukascopy, claiming it paid over 1 mill in 4 years eur/chf eur/gbp $560
Jforex EA floating target $1,500
TFOT (best robot for 2011) $950 (10k to 35k in 18 months) live account.
Does anyone know about these EA's? , or any on this site that are known to work well?
Thanks
VB
If EA make so much money, why they bother to sell EA?
Quoting maxzeus
heres from another Perspective or POV

[i]Hi, You don't mind taking someone else's EA for your own. So you have never looked at someone else strategy for your own Ideas ? Also, I fear you have found a very profitable EA when working on this Strategy and you get upset because the coder is not sharing the EA 's code with the community ? You don't mind everyone testing your Strats and finding some optimisations for...
That is one perspective or POV.
TCO Trader MACD All Time Return: 2.7%
I rarely post but I have been following this thread and the Cloud Burst thread for a while now and I feel I must respond. As a newbie coder I have a few observations:

I can understand seller9 wanting to protect his programming style and code for personal reasons - it doesn't necessarily mean he has an ulterior motive.

I can also understand unimak's frustration at being unable to control his trading strategy in the way the evolving code allows.

I also think that there is a lot of confusion in the communication of ideas between both the conceiver and the coder. This might be improved (as one reply has already demonstrated) by other contributers putting into words their own understanding of unimak's idea.

It would be a shame if the breakdown of relations between traders was to put an end to the development of this idea.

Now, some suggestions:

Perhaps we should all acknowledge the valuable contribution that both unimak and seller9 have made so far in the evolution of this EA, I for one have benefited greatly and offer my thanks to both parties.

If unimak was to apologise to seller9 for getting a bit antsy and seller9 was to forgive unimak maybe the development could continue for everyone's edification.

Failing that, maybe somebody (with more knowledge than me, I hasten to add) could take over where seller9 left off. The basic ideas cannot be that difficult to code and perhaps the coder would be happy to provide the source code in addition?

Just a few thoughts from a humble trader who knows his place.
When you are wrong - admit it. When you are right - keep quiet!
EA not taken trades yet, am not sure why...
I would suggest taking this idea/thread over to steve hopwood's forum. As long as this method doesn't utilize custom indicators (steve HATES these), He could probably knock this out in a day or two....
Here is the code that pertains to the Pivot part of the EA that is in version 3, the rest should be general knowledge.

extern int BuySellOffSet = 5;

YesterdayHigh = iHigh(NULL, PERIOD_D1, 1);
YesterdayLow = iLow(NULL, PERIOD_D1, 1);
YesterdayClose = iClose(NULL, PERIOD_D1, 1);
OpenD = iOpen(NULL, PERIOD_D1, 0);

PivotD = (YesterdayHigh + YesterdayLow + YesterdayClose) / 3.0;
R1D = (2.0*PivotD) - YesterdayLow;
S1D = (2.0*PivotD) - YesterdayHigh;

if(YesterdayClose>PivotD && OpenD>PivotD && Bid<R1D && Bid<(PivotD -(Point*BuySellOffSet)))BuyFlagR1 = 1;
if(BuyFlagR1==1 && Bid>PivotD){
if((R1D-Bid)<(TargetPips*Point))Signal = Buy;
}

if(YesterdayClose<PivotD && OpenD<PivotD && Bid>S1D && Bid>(PivotD + (Point*BuySellOffSet)))SellFlagR1 = 2;
if(SellFlagR1==2 && Bid<PivotD){
if((Bid-S1D)<(TargetPips*Point))Signal = Sell;
}
I would like to apologize for my remarks to Seller9. I felt bad since posting it and I understand Seller9 has a right to keep his code under lock and key. I appreciate his great effort in creating his EAs and trying to accommodate all the suggestions from the forum. Sorry to the team for bring a negative vibe to this worthy project. TCO.
TCO Trader MACD All Time Return: 2.7%
error generated when loading Pivots_v3.ex on MT4:

2012.04.25 05:40:28 pivots_v3 EURUSD,H1: executable file is corrupted. Please recompile it.

I get this each time. Not for Pivots_v2
Now that the lines are spread out, maybe we'll get some trades.
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Quoting wolfeman
I would suggest taking this idea/thread over to steve hopwood's forum. As long as this method doesn't utilize custom indicators (steve HATES these), He could probably knock this out in a day or two....
this idea does not need any indicator at all, so there is no question of using any indicator. it is mere maths that too only addition and subraction :-)
unimak, do you have all the rules layed out somewhere so there is no misunderstanding? Steve requires this..but if you have it, I'm quite certain Steve would write this for free and the code will be public.


Quoting unimak
this idea does not need any indicator at all, so there is no question of using any indicator. it is mere maths that too only addition and subraction :-)
Quoting wolfeman
unimak, do you have all the rules layed out somewhere so there is no misunderstanding? Steve requires this..but if you have it, I'm quite certain Steve would write this for free and the code will be public.
1 GBP-USD buy win, another buy trade is triggered. Is this expected result?

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Quoting wolfeman
unimak, do you have all the rules layed out somewhere so there is no misunderstanding? Steve requires this..but if you have it, I'm quite certain Steve would write this for free and the code will be public.
Good idea wolfeman! I'm not a coder but I think the biggest part of the code that does the necessary buy sell math calulations are in the snippet that seller9 left us. Perhaps given this and pointed to this tread Steve may be able to put this together.
Quoting AbhijetPandi
1 GBP-USD buy win, another buy trade is triggered. Is this expected result?

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Yes. I just had two wins on G/U.
Quoting wolfeman
unimak, do you have all the rules layed out somewhere so there is no misunderstanding? Steve requires this..but if you have it, I'm quite certain Steve would write this for free and the code will be public.
sure if steve is ready then here are the rules .

1. we do only daily pivot based trade
2. pivot r1 and s1 will be calculated no need of the rest
3. pivot forumula is hlc/3
4. on monday when the market opens it should take friday data to calculate the monday pivot. some brokers give sunday data which should be ignored.
5. rest of the week day will be calculated normally meaning i will take thursday data for calculating friday pivot
6. based on the open figure i shall determine whether it is a normal market or strong market or weak market

if the open is near the pivot it is a normal market if it is near r1 or abv r1 then it is strong market , if it is near s1 or below s1 then weak market.

rules for entry buy :-

the price should cut the pv or r1 or s1 from below then only it is a buy , for sell the price should cut from the top then only it is sell

so how we get a sell figure ??

we for now simply deduct 30 pips from the pv so if EU pv is 1.3150 then sell value is 1.3115 is the sell value, simple

This should be user changeable. as we go for optimisation once the EA stabilises.

TP rules , we just have to book at 10 pips interval so suppose the price cuts 10 pips then we simply move our sl and place it below the 10 pip level say at 9 pip meaning 1.3151 if we buy then tp 10 pips is 1.3161 so our sl will be moved to 1.3160 whn the price brks 1.3161 to show say 1.3165 , this will go on and on till the sl triggers

all exit is via sl only .

basically 2 things the ea need to do determine the type of market , and take the entry as per rules.

i think i have covered the rules, if you have any doubt pls revert back. i shall clarify .

I have no issues in whoever codes, but as long as the code is given back to the community it is all fine. No body should be privy to the code.

If the code is given out , i understand people saying it will get misused, at the same time a open code will enable people to better it also where we all can benefit in the future. As regards people misusing, i leave it to the Almighty .
Quoting unimak
sure if steve is ready then here are the rules .

1. we do only daily pivot based trade
2. pivot r1 and s1 will be calculated no need of the rest
3. pivot forumula is hlc/3
4. on monday when the market opens it should take friday data to calculate the monday pivot. some brokers give sunday data which should be ignored.
5. rest of the week day will be calculated normally meaning i will take thursday data for calculating friday pivot
6. based on the open figure i shall determine whether it is a normal market or strong market or weak market...
I've sent a message to Steve - he's a busy guy, lets see what comes
Quoting Telac
I've sent a message to Steve - he's a busy guy, lets see what comes
Just a note that Steve posted he will be away til tomorrow evening so i guess not much will be happening before then.

If i have time later i'll have a go at putting a simple ea together to test the method out that can then be added to. The idea is pretty simple, it is just making it work reliable that can take time.

Regards

Mike
Ok, had a few spare minutes to knock this together but it doesn't seem to want to trade at the moment so i am posting as a work in progress as i have other commitments i need to deal with.

I took Steve's shell and added the relevant code to use seller9 code snippet, this is found in CheckSignals() at bottom of the code. At the moment if you look at the display you will see "Buy Signal R1:" and "Sell Signal S1:". What you want is three "1" for a Buy or three "2" for a Sell, these are based on the three checks in the code snippet from seller9 for a signal.

During the quick tests i have done on GU H1 i never get a full house of signal requirements so no trades are entered. Can someone else have a look at this bit as i think there is something not correct with the logic but haven't got time to fix at the moment.

I'll be back on later.

Enjoy

Mike
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