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Not enough time to be full time trader, so i do this. Good idea or not?

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  • First Post: Feb 21, 2013 2:22pm | Edited at 11:57pm
  • NavExpert
    Joined Dec 2012 | 32 Posts | Status: Member
Hello all,
I Have a full time job and not enough time to be a full time trader.

so i plan to do some long term trades on the side. By that i mean I want to wait to gdpusd form a trend in the daily chart and weekly chart then long or short it. I would use around 0.6 lot, on a 10k account, and set S/L 200-300 pips. And monitor it every weekend. What do you think?
Edited because going against trend = bad…

Best,
Nav
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  • Feb 21, 2013 3:10pm
  • Rolland
    Joined Apr 2012 | 477 Posts | Status: Damn son, where'd you find this?
Based on your post I'd say the biggest obstacle between you and being a full time trader isn't the amount of time available per day to trade.
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  • Feb 21, 2013 3:52pm | Edited Feb 22, 2013 4:33am
  • Gumrai
    Joined Oct 2012 | 772 Posts | Status: Member
I guess that you have noted that GBPUSD has been in a range for nearly 18 months and is now at the bottom of the range. So you intend to go long, targetting the top of the range. ?
Personally, I would not want to risk my whole account on a single trade, but it is up to you.
Maybe 10K is a drop in the ocean for you?

EDIT: The OP has completely changed the content of his first post.
Originally he was planning to enter 0.6 lots long on GBPUSD on a 10K account with a target around 1.6200 (if I remember correctly). He was talking about holding the trade and even adding more money to the account should he approach a margin call
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  • Feb 21, 2013 6:24pm
  • NavExpert
    Joined Dec 2012 | 32 Posts | Status: Member
I agree, going against the trend is bad... I should wait and "look at the Weekly and Daily and when all of them show the same direction (long or short), place an order with you SL above/below the last swing by say 100/200 pips or so. Then just monitor the trade on weekly and monthly." suggested by someone.
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  • Feb 21, 2013 6:34pm
  • 60minuteman
    Joined Feb 2012 | 1,599 Posts | Status: Member
i would suggest reading the equity millipede thread
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  • Feb 21, 2013 7:00pm
  • allisonmagic
    Joined Jul 2012 | 1,176 Posts | Status: Member
you could always use donchian channels or ichimoku if you want a long term bias for trading
The Force is your friend, not the Trend..
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  • Feb 21, 2013 7:49pm
  • allisonmagic
    Joined Jul 2012 | 1,176 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting NavExpert
Hello all,
I Have a full time job and not enough time to be a full time trader.

so i plan to do some long term trades on the side. By that i mean I want to wait to gdpusd form a trend in the daily chart and weekly chart then long or short it. I would use around 0.6 lot, on a 10k account, and set S/L 200-300 pips. And monitor it every weekend. What do you think?
Edited because going against trend = bad…

Best,
Nav

Luke 17:23

And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there:





go not after them, nor follow them.
The Force is your friend, not the Trend..
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  • Feb 21, 2013 11:35pm
  • Kanzler
    Joined Nov 2012 | 1,222 Posts | Status: Buy Fear & Sell Greed
You don't need a lot of time to be a full time trader - that's the real beauty behind making this a career. The more I've learned the more I realize, the best strategies involve pre-planning every aspect of your trade and setting and forgetting it.
Conventional wisdom leads to conventional results.
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  • Feb 22, 2013 12:47am
  • pemully
    Joined Aug 2011 | 637 Posts | Status: Member
over 90% of my trading is on a smartphone. I trade the H1 charts monitoring the setups on 1 hour loops. I have a full-time job and I'm still able to perform perfectly.

for daily timeframe you can monitor the trades at end of day,no stress.
pemully All Time Return: 40.9%
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  • Feb 22, 2013 4:20am
  • Jack Tequila
    Joined Nov 2012 | 8 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting NavExpert
Hello all,
I Have a full time job and not enough time to be a full time trader.

so i plan to do some long term trades on the side. By that i mean I want to wait to gdpusd form a trend in the daily chart and weekly chart then long or short it. I would use around 0.6 lot, on a 10k account, and set S/L 200-300 pips. And monitor it every weekend. What do you think?
Edited because going against trend = bad…

Best,
Nav

Based on lot size of 0.60 and stop loss of 200-300 pips, it means your risk amount for a trade is $1200-$1800. That is 12%-18% of your $10000 capital. It is way too much risk for a single trade.

The recommended risk per trade should be less than 5%.

There is nothing wrong with your trading method, just know that you will not be getting many trade opportunities. Nothing wrong with that at all as long as you can wait for the setup to occur. Even less opportunities if you are just trading on a single currency pair.
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  • Feb 22, 2013 4:28am
  • Gumrai
    Joined Oct 2012 | 772 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting NavExpert
Hello all,
I Have a full time job and not enough time to be a full time trader.

so i plan to do some long term trades on the side. By that i mean I want to wait to gdpusd form a trend in the daily chart and weekly chart then long or short it. I would use around 0.6 lot, on a 10k account, and set S/L 200-300 pips. And monitor it every weekend. What do you think?
Edited because going against trend = bad…

Best,
Nav
Nav,
It is not on to completely change the content of the first post in your thread after you have had several replies.
If you change your mind about what you are going to do, you should add a new post and leave the original intact.
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  • Feb 22, 2013 7:27am
  • jaylovin
    Joined Jan 2010 | 1,307 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting Jack Tequila
Based on lot size of 0.60 and stop loss of 200-300 pips, it means your risk amount for a trade is $1200-$1800. That is 12%-18% of your $10000 capital. It is way too much risk for a single trade.

The recommended risk per trade should be less than 5%.

There is nothing wrong with your trading method, just know that you will not be getting many trade opportunities. Nothing wrong with that at all as long as you can wait for the setup to occur. Even less opportunities if you are just trading on a single currency pair.

agree with this post.. if you are going to swing you should lower position size with a bigger stop.... and trading part time is probably better than full time for your mind and life in general
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  • Feb 25, 2013 9:41am
  • NavExpert
    Joined Dec 2012 | 32 Posts | Status: Member
Anyone have the confidence and experience to be my mentor in part time swing trading, or buy and hold trading?
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  • Feb 25, 2013 11:26am
  • suzanneT
    Joined Feb 2013 | 3 Posts | Status: Member
I have a close friend who works full-time. He looks at all his pairs on the weekend, makes his choices, sets his stops, and checks in the next weekend to see how he did. Reset.

He is doing well, not perfect consistency, but pretty stable. There is also the added benefit of being removed from the rises/falls. Staring at the candlesticks can make you a headcase, you start moving your stops all over, lose sight of your original plan and end up making mistakes. Being removed takes the emotion out of it, which I think is the key to consistent performance.
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  • Last Post: Feb 25, 2013 11:29am
  • Kanzler
    Joined Nov 2012 | 1,222 Posts | Status: Buy Fear & Sell Greed
Quoting NavExpert
Anyone have the confidence and experience to be my mentor in part time swing trading, or buy and hold trading?
The first thing you would want to find out is if someone is even profitable. Also I would tell you that buy and hold trading is a flawed strategy at best....worked for the uptrend in the stock market for the late 20th century but I wouldn't bet on that always being the case.
Conventional wisdom leads to conventional results.
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