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Your indicator just shifts 1 bar.. That's all it does!! Nothing to do with non-repainting !! And Genegisi Matrix does not repaints !!


Quoting lambic
Here is a little modification of genesis i use, it's a non repainting visualization of the indicator. Set NRP to true for non repainting or use NRP to true for classic one. Regards

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Quoting Fame of me
you are wrong, it works exactly with the indis in the zip.
but when you know it better, then you are the first person which have this problems. ha ha ha

but i am friendly here the tvi.ex4 which will create when you load the template

Actually i wasnt the only one to have that problem at least one other person had that problem that's why in post 8432 I helped uncc56 given him/her the ex4 file.

This problem don't occur with all of the metatraders. I have installed a few metatraders of different brokers (to test , spread feed, uptime,etc..) and it only happen in one of then, don't ask me which one of them because I don't remember.

So I asked RJ to include the file in the zip to avoid future problems that someone may have, especially if they don't know how to work minimally with metaeditor and compile a indicator.



I don't know if was your intention or is just me but next time try not do seem so condescending, its not polite.

Happy new year and many green pips to everyone.
Quoting Demos4x


I don't know if was your intention or is just me but next time try not do seem so condescending, its not polite.

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I am not condescending, I only say what I think ;-)
Trade what you see! Not what you think!
Quoting olivierforex
This is probably the last piece that you'll get on this matter before RJ goes medieval on you. Only 7 posts above your last post was this:

If you're not going to read the replies to your posts then we can't help you anymore.
I'm sorry, I did not understand at once.
Thanks for the help!
Happy New Year!
Good morning to all! Made my 60 pips this morning on the EURUSD and the EURJPY. I did it with just price action and the Average Trading Range. Price was near the bottom of the Average Trading Range. Price action showed it was going up. Took the trade. I do not expect much movenment for the rest of the day! We all will have a great new year ahead of us!
Happy New Year to everyone, I hope it will
be a "pip plentyfull " year
EU H4 Strategy Weekly Update:
Start:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...10#post6253310
Updates:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...47#post6275247
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...43#post6298243
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...89#post6320489

Quoting olivierforex
One new trade this week: I'll take the data on that one with a pinch of salt due to the current low liquidity environment.
As expected: on the higher TF the moves are almost near their end once Genesis turns and the last 3 signals have proven it (hardly any pips in it and higher than average drawdown). Here are the updated stats anyway.
Happy New Year to All.
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Haaaaaaappy New Year Genesis Fans I hope everyone had a great Holidays. Best wishes to everyone here for a profitable 2013. I got a good start with today's Asian session allowing me to grab 52 pips mostly on EJ and GJ. I didn't trade UJ but it also had a nice run. My New Year's resolution is to, starting this month, do my best to target 50 pips a day and follow the projected trading equity plan put forth by RJ a couple of months ago. I've also seen a table/chart that shows how much one can earn by making 25% of your current account balance every month which is doable, but I'd rather focus on the pips than the money. My other trading resolution is not to overtrade. This is, hopefully was, as in past tense, my biggest trading flaw. I'm much better now than I used to be but there's still room for improvement. Like the Nike commercial says,"Just do it!"
"If you think you can, or you think you can't, you're right." (Henry Ford)
Hi Olli,re 4 hr TF trading why are you letting the dd go past -35 pips,I thought your
analysis 0f -35 compared to -50 dd you made previously made a lot of sense?
Quoting olivierforex
EU H4 Strategy Weekly Update:

As expected: on the higher TF the moves are almost near their end once Genesis turns and the last 3 signals have proven it (hardly any pips in it and higher than average drawdown). Here are the updated stats anyway.
Happy New Year to All.
Looking at those last 3 trades compared to your earlier ones I wonder if it was more a matter of the "holidays" and their effects on the market....or I could just be emotionally attached to the idea that someone, someday may be able to make genesis work on the 4H charts. The boss doesn't like me looking at charts all day!
Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face
hello,

Has anyone tried it on daily chart?

thanks!
Alex
Quoting Dud45
Looking at those last 3 trades compared to your earlier ones I wonder if it was more a matter of the "holidays" and their effects on the market....
That's what I meant in the previous post:
Quoting olivierforex
I'll take the data on that one with a pinch of salt due to the current low liquidity environment.
I doubt very much that orders flow will be back to normal until next week so I would continue to take any H4 data with the same pinch of salt as I did since the onset of the holiday period.
Quoting dudele2
Hi Olli,re 4 hr TF trading why are you letting the dd go past -35 pips,I thought your
analysis 0f -35 compared to -50 dd you made previously made a lot of sense?
I am only posting the data and it's up to anyone how they want to trade it. It was originally an exercise to show people how to devise a(any) strategy using pure data/numbers on top of H4 Genesis with the request/hope that others might do the same with different FX pairs & share their work/strategy but bar 1 or 2, sadly no one else has been interested/bothered....
Quoting olivierforex
I am only posting the data and it's up to anyone how they want to trade it. It was originally an exercise to show people how to devise a(any) strategy using pure data/numbers on top of H4 Genesis with the request/hope that others might do the same with different FX pairs & share their work/strategy but bar 1 or 2, sadly no one else has been interested/bothered....
Hello Oils
I'll follow with interest.
As always, the SL is certain while the TP is not.
I'm also trying the same method on 4H charts with other cross.

Keep it up and thanks.

Ciao
Re 4 hr system

took the time to do some backtesting,twicked things some

1--take every entry
2--SL at 35 pips as suggested by Oli seems best (eur/jpy a little higher
cross more volatile)
3--take full profit at 45 pips,reason is that partial profit is good,but full loss
ain't that good, so the RR works better with taking your full profit and run
4--after 20 pips in profit move your SL to B/E plus spread, great great filter
backtested 3 currencies from august and 4th still working on it

If I made some mistakes hey,my eyes ain't that good
didn't use anything but Genesys Matrix to enter trades
see attachment,results are good
if attachment is not enclosed it's because I screwed something up
attachment??
Attached File
File Type: xlsx 4 hr system.xlsx   14 KB | 227 downloads
Yea attachment sent

Thanks Genesys Team
Thanks Oli
Thanks me for doing all that backtesting
Re: Genesis system on the H4

I have been looking at the H4 charts on other pairs as well. Pairs that trend most of the time seem to do well on H4, such as EURJPY and EURAUD. I have come to realise that on higher time frames, the CCI period 20(2nd row of matrix) is a bit slow. Period CCI 20 seems to work well on lower time frames to keep out of fake entries. Most of the time CCI14 and CCI20 change color on the same candle, but on a few occasions CCI20 is late by one candle to have better entry on H4.

I have also played around with Stoch settings for H4 and 14,4,6 seems quite good. The places where the stoch comes from the overbought or the oversold match well the genesis signals.

I am posting a screen shot of entries on EURJPY for from Oct 1, 2012 to Jan 3 ,2013.
Entries :
Solid blue line : BUY entry triggered at +4 pips away from the high of the signal candle.
Solid red line : SELL entry triggered at -4 pips away from the low of the signal candle.
Dotted blue line : BUY signal that wouldn't have been triggered with a pending order of +4 pips above the high of the signal candle
Dotted red line : sell signal that wouldn't have been triggered with a pending order of -4 pips under the low of the signal candle

Notes: most signals seem to go into profit right away. Some signals go into a small profit (10 - 20 pips), then retrace, go into drawdown and then go back into profit. I guess it all depends of where the SL is placed if the order is closed in profit or not.

Exits:
- close trade when TVI changed color and the candle closed. It seems to keep the trade in profit longer and ride the trend when one is in place.
- close trade when full matrix closed with opposite color, kind of like a signal to signal trading


This is just a visual backtest, without exact data like Oli's, but I hope it can help others
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Happy new year to all genesis people.

Below my first intraday trade of this year.

Short GU +63p

I waited few bars before entering (the previuos low breakout - blue line).
Vertical red line entry bar.
Exit @ WP1 after PA stalled.

ciao

wiz

p.s.: I also collected -15p on NU (SL hit). Daily Grand Total +48p.
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HNY to all you green pippin' Genesis traders.

Been trading a little over Xmas/NY period, been very volatile, but very profitable.

Here's hoping a very prosperous 2013 to you all !!
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
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