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Trendline Break (The Only System You Need)

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  • Nov 14, 2012 11:32pm
  • iferdous
    Joined Dec 2010 | 37 Posts | Status: Member
went short AUD/USD 1.03785..
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  • Nov 14, 2012 11:59pm
  • JumpJack
    Joined Mar 2010 | 87 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting flash4
hi all
i have only started reading this thread (about half way)
looks like a simple concept
does the chart below present a valid setup?
The problem with all this is you have taken a chart of some time frame, looked back and found a few trend line brakes that would have produced winning trades. Yes they work about half of the time. But how to do in real time. Where to take profit, where to place stop loss?? It looks much different in real time. You are better off using a couple of indicators to give you a reason to pull the trigger, take partial profit at some point, let the balance run to some back tested point, place your stop loss at the last high/low and hope over a month you come out winners. Find a system that has one trend and one oscillator and back test until you formulate a plan.
It is all a form of educated gambling.
If you look at your 5 min chart you can draw about 100 trend lines. Which one to trade??
JJ
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  • Nov 15, 2012 3:22am
  • flash4
    Joined Oct 2011 | 37 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting JumpJack
The problem with all this is you have taken a chart of some time frame, looked back and found a few trend line brakes that would have produced winning trades. Yes they work about half of the time. But how to do in real time. Where to take profit, where to place stop loss?? It looks much different in real time. You are better off using a couple of indicators to give you a reason to pull the trigger, take partial profit at some point, let the balance run to some back tested point, place your stop loss at the last high/low and hope over a month...
you are correct JJ, i havent yet developed this into a system. at this stage just learning the pure trendline signals and trying to perfect the best trendline (as you pointed out there are 100 you can draw). once confident i will want to introduce other signals and then start the money management
is this a decent plan?
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  • Nov 17, 2012 10:20pm
  • amikaking
    Joined Oct 2012 | 73 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting JumpJack
The problem with all this is you have taken a chart of some time frame, looked back and found a few trend line brakes that would have produced winning trades. Yes they work about half of the time. But how to do in real time. Where to take profit, where to place stop loss?? It looks much different in real time. You are better off using a couple of indicators to give you a reason to pull the trigger, take partial profit at some point, let the balance run to some back tested point, place your stop loss at the last high/low and hope over a month...
Instead of identifying and drawing 100 trendlines, why not you choose the recent highest point and lowest point?
Please take note while drawing an uptrend line: The second low must be higher than the first for the line to have a positive slope and while drawing an downtrend line: The second high must be lower than the first for the line to have a negative slope.

Below is the latest EUR/USD as an example:
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I have been tired of being a daytrader so I only trade daily chart. Even if it is a short term breakout, I can still net pretty much profits (pips) since the daily volume is apparently higher compared to those on lower TFs. I hope I make it clear and simple, sorry if my English is poor.

Just use my template if you are like my chart.
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  • Nov 17, 2012 11:31pm
  • cku ● Online
    Joined Jul 2012 | 89 Posts | Status: Member
Thanks Amikaking for ur explanation.
my question now is from your trend line that u have drawn what is the next move if price breaks the upper of lower line?
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  • Nov 17, 2012 11:32pm
  • cku ● Online
    Joined Jul 2012 | 89 Posts | Status: Member
what is ur take profit and stoploss
do u move ur stops?
cheers
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  • Nov 19, 2012 10:08am | Edited at 10:22am
  • piprac
    Joined Nov 2007 | 593 Posts | Status: Member
I have a bullish outside bar for the A/$ @ 08:03 ct/us (-6GMT) I entered 3 pips above the high of the signal bar @1.0410 - I hope it goes for a nice ride but volume does seem low this morning.

edit 09:20 I failed to notice two congestion zones around Nov 11th and Nov 7th - both lasted for more than one day. My buy was right into those zones, should have looked left!
"Chance favors the prepared mind." Louis Pasteur
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  • Nov 19, 2012 3:36pm
  • piprac
    Joined Nov 2007 | 593 Posts | Status: Member
AUD/USD I got out of this for minus 11 pips, 4 down candles was enough for me although the SL was for 27 (I think) pips. It is starting to come back but there is some red flag Aussie news this evening and I'll take a smaller loss over hope. The Tue NY session has some big news too; this might not be a good week to trade with the US holiday on Thu and Fri.
"Chance favors the prepared mind." Louis Pasteur
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  • Mar 21, 2013 5:04am
  • andoseg2
    Joined Jun 2011 | 10 Posts | Status: Member
This is a bullshit . Starter of this thread is a looser. All know that on history all are wall-street traders.
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  • Mar 22, 2013 9:12am
  • piprac
    Joined Nov 2007 | 593 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting andoseg2
This is a bullshit . Starter of this thread is a looser. All know that on history all are wall-street traders.
I captured +30 pips with the E/Y, 1H TF this morning. I closed early as it put me in profit for the week and month. And by the way it's "his pants are looser proving he is not a loser controlling his weight."
"Chance favors the prepared mind." Louis Pasteur
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  • May 23, 2013 11:41am
  • prestij
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got bored by dozens of indicators.


gold: i am waiting for re-test candle to close upper side of trend line. if it happens i will go long

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  • May 23, 2013 11:48am
  • prestij
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aud/usd


it found a support at near 0.96, waiting a candle that will break trend line.

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  • May 23, 2013 2:52pm
  • prestij
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look at that wonderfull bar. go gold go..


another important trendline is on usd/cad chart. waiting for a candle that will break trendline.

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  • May 24, 2013 10:15am
  • prestij
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there is a break and re-test candle just stopped at trendline. and also bearish engulf. very risky but it meets my conditions. opened position before candle close

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  • May 24, 2013 1:35pm
  • prestij
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i only can earn money with this method in 2 years.


eur/usd reached tp.


i closed gold position by breakeven because it couldnt satisfy my expectation and weekend comes.


for the next week my eyes will be on gold-aud/usd-usd/cad


have a beatiful weekend

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  • May 26, 2013 6:16pm
  • prestij
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new week started with a break. I sell usd/cad with a low stop level. probobly i will stop but the risk worths to take position.

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  • May 27, 2013 6:18am
  • prestij
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usd/cad reached sl


and gold will decide to destination. i will open position wherever it goes.

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  • May 29, 2013 10:02am
  • prestij
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just openned buy position on gold.


trendline break + trendline support

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  • May 30, 2013 4:02pm
  • prestij
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today my gold position reached tp.


there is a possible sell position on eur/usd however i wont go.


i close this week


happy weekend.

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  • Last Post: Jun 8, 2013 6:38pm
  • Soundz
    Joined Feb 2012 | 16 Posts | Status: Member

Just read the entire thread, and its great info! The more people that post and share examples the more we can all learn and fine tune for ourselves.


Questions-


1. What is a goond indi that can help minimize bad trades? I see people posting RSI, Divergence, fibo retrace and a CCI 50 or 9, and 200MA with a 5MA. Can anyone clear this up on a " how to use" them correctly?


2. Some people posted about Pivots, is there indi that will do it for you in a clear manner?


3. When drawing the trendline on a higher time frame, like the day to the hour to the 30m, do you adjust the trend line as you more down to a lower time frame or leave the trendline of the higher time frame.



That is all for now! Keep posting!

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