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  • Jun 23, 2012 1:39pm
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
I like the golf analogies for the discussion of systems versus expertise.

There are multiple swing techniques and you only have to read any of the multiple golf magazines to find that each coach is promoting a different slant on essentially one goal - accuracy and repeatability. There is no holy grail in golf, or any other particular skill except for learning, experience and application. discover what approach works in any particular scenario and perfect the approach.

All of the retail training companies are there for one purpose - selling training materials and to ultimately generate a passive income from subscription services, so essentially there is going to be an upsell - "join our exclusive platinum members only benefits club/group".

Some of the retail training companies may very well be successful in using their own systems, but I guarantee they make more money selling product than they do in trading. Residual/Passive income is the key (Trump / Kiyosaki).

Maybe cynical - probably not.

From all of the FF threads that start out with a "pure" approach / system, most get corrupted by a profusion of indicators which only serve to confuse and distort the approach.

All indicators are in fact lagging (historical) - they are based on moving averages based on a sample size of previous prices / L/H / closes or they are based on more complicated algorithms. There are no true leading (predictive) indicators. There are numerous examples of robots and EAs that initially work and then collapse.

At the end of the day in any trading environment, Price Action, Supply & Demand, Momentum are the only winners. Some of the indicators have a higher success rate, but blindly following a "when this line crosses that line and when this bar changes colour " will get you in a hole, unless you take the time and energy to understand what is driving the markets, what the risk is and what the probability is of any particular trade set-up.

The institutional investment organizations control billions of dollars - these are the true market makers, the retail trading market is unlikely to ever have the ability to influence a market - is less coordinated and has much less capital.

OK - I'm off the soap box now. That was my 10 cents on "systems"

Cheers - happy pip hunting.
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  • Jun 23, 2012 3:20pm
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
Always open to additional trading ideas, so I am presently demo testing on the currency index charts as well as the live trading on the forex charts.

There are only 8 charts to watch - USD - EUR - GBP - AUD - NZD - CHF - JPY - CAD, so really easy to set up on one screen. Currently CHF and CAD are too choppy, so I have the 6 charts on one screen.

I am getting these on MT4 from Lite Forex - SigTrader
http://www.liteforex.com/downloads/mt4/

As these charts are already subject to the calculation based on the USD index calculations, I am only using candlesticks, so no APB.

All other indicators stay the same and the entry set-ups are the same.

To get the indicators into this version of MT4, I just copied them from my IBFX indicators folder into the Sig Trader 4 indicators folder
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  • Jun 23, 2012 10:59pm
  • Czaray
    Joined Jul 2010 | 149 Posts | Status: Digital color is dead
Hi, since this is a thread about candlesticks I was wondering if anyone knows what the best open and close times are? For example, my broker is on Gmt time and London opens at 7:00 gmt on my platform, but i have noticed that a lot of other traders have completely different candlestick patterns, particularly on the 4hr and up. So this makes candlestick trading kind of ambiguous. Any suggestions for the most valid time zone to trade?
Thanks
Shapeshift greed and catch em' off guard
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  • Jun 24, 2012 10:05am
  • prftablefool
    Joined Mar 2011 | 183 Posts | Status: Trend follower
Quoting Britpip7
Always open to additional trading ideas, so I am presently demo testing on the currency index charts as well as the live trading on the forex charts.

There are only 8 charts to watch - USD - EUR - GBP - AUD - NZD - CHF - JPY - CAD, so really easy to set up on one screen. Currently CHF and CAD are too choppy, so I have the 6 charts on one screen.

I am getting these on MT4 from Lite Forex - SigTrader
http://www.liteforex.com/downloads/mt4/

As these charts are already subject to the calculation based on the USD index calculations, I am only using candlesticks, so no APB.

All other indicators stay the same and the entry set-ups are the same.

To get the indicators into this version of MT4, I just copied them from my IBFX indicators folder into the Sig Trader 4 indicators folder

Pardon my ignorance but what's the difference between looking at AUD index and AUDUSD charts as both of them shows the same trend.

Am I missing something ??
Forex is boring but profitable with patience and discipline :waiting:
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  • Jun 24, 2012 2:56pm
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
Quoting Czaray
Hi, since this is a thread about candlesticks I was wondering if anyone knows what the best open and close times are? For example, my broker is on Gmt time and London opens at 7:00 gmt on my platform, but i have noticed that a lot of other traders have completely different candlestick patterns, particularly on the 4hr and up. So this makes candlestick trading kind of ambiguous. Any suggestions for the most valid time zone to trade?
Thanks
Very much broker dependent on the candle's start times.

MBT has theirs at 9pm PDT
IBFX is at 5pm PDT

I always wait for a day candle to close before making any decisions, so with my screen availability, I am placing trades between 8pm and 10 pm PDT.
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  • Jun 24, 2012 3:08pm
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
Quoting prftablefool
Pardon my ignorance but what's the difference between looking at AUD index and AUDUSD charts as both of them shows the same trend.

Am I missing something ??
I did have some video links - but I had a system crash that dumped the links / bookmarks!!!

I trade directly on these charts just as in the usual 4x crosses. Currently testing out to see if these are easier to see for trades and if the trend runs are better.

These can also ne used as relative strength indicators, so if EU is up and USD is down, EU becomes a good trade. Not an expert on these yet, so still in the learning phase. Here's the link to Lite Forex and the formulae for the calculations.

http://www.liteforex.com/trading/tra...ments/indices/
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  • Jun 24, 2012 4:29pm
  • Czaray
    Joined Jul 2010 | 149 Posts | Status: Digital color is dead
Quoting Britpip7
Very much broker dependent on the candle's start times.

MBT has theirs at 9pm PDT
IBFX is at 5pm PDT

I always wait for a day candle to close before making any decisions, so with my screen availability, I am placing trades between 8pm and 10 pm PDT.
Thanks for the response Britpip. At what time does your daily candle close PDT time?
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  • Jun 24, 2012 4:37pm
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
Quoting Czaray
Thanks for the response Britpip. At what time does your daily candle close PDT time?
5pm for those of us on the West coast

If you are concerned on the day charts, drop down to H4 to verify momentum.

Running analysis on the Monthly and weekly should have you setting up for the PA on the lower timeframes D and H4
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  • Jun 25, 2012 12:41am
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
Worth a look.

Could be forming up as a head and shoulders, but is worth watching PA for a new reversal.

RSI10 needs to move higher and it will follow PA after the pause over the past few days.

A break of the Fractal Up should confirm the reversal.

Similar patterns on eur/nzd, eur/aud, gbp/aud
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  • Jun 26, 2012 10:10am
  • Verbal
    Joined Nov 2011 | 65 Posts | Status: Member
Britpip,

I have a question regarding the ATR1 /ATR7. Is there an upper limit for that? I mean what in a single day the candle is too long? Naturally one would expect some correction during the next candles (?)

Quoting Britpip7
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PA moves with ATR(1) at 75% or higher of ATR(7)
RSI moving above 50
TDI cross within the last 1 or 2 candles and moving up from the 32 region
5EMA broken to the upside
Day chart showing recent trading range of swings with 500+pips (next resistance level 500pips away)

For short entries:
PA moves with ATR(1) at 75% or higher of ATR(7)
RSI moving below 50
TDI cross within the last 1 or 2 candles and moving down from the 68 region
5EMA broken to the downside...
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  • Jun 26, 2012 2:48pm
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
Quoting Verbal
Britpip,

I have a question regarding the ATR1 /ATR7. Is there an upper limit for that? I mean what in a single day the candle is too long? Naturally one would expect some correction during the next candles (?)
That's an interesting question Verbal and one that could only be answered based on looking back at some of the larger candles to see how the pair reacts, especially when the ATR1 greatly exceeds the ATR7.

When I have some down time I'll run some analysis on the 3 amigos. My suspicions would be that as long as you do not get a piercing or engulfing pattern on the next candle, then the move will continue, unless you are really close to S/R levels.
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  • Jun 27, 2012 12:13am
  • Fxaddicts
    Joined Feb 2012 | 36 Posts | Status: Member
THANKS brit7 for sharing the day trade method
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  • Jun 27, 2012 11:40pm
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
Quoting Fxaddicts
THANKS brit7 for sharing the day trade method
You are welcome - post some charts of set ups and trades when you get up and running
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  • Jun 28, 2012 12:30am
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
Interesting set up for gbp/aud and gbp/nzd - currently watching for Fractal Low breaks
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  • Jun 29, 2012 1:02am
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
After the eurozone news, all previous set-ups are still holding, so patience is required.

Do not dive in on the current day candle as it may well retrace - possibly look at triggering a trade off of the H/L. I will wait on the candle close and see if any trades trigger overnight.

Most trends are still in place, so confirmation needed before we see a reversal - see the aud/usd.

Usually the large day candles have an element of reversal before they resume direction.

Also watch for the 100/200emas - many pairs have these parallel and running horizontal, this can lead to very strong S/R levels
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  • Jun 29, 2012 11:50am
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
For anyone riding the EU surge today, don't forget to manage your stop losses before the probable profit taking wave hits before market close.

Just a thought on pip preservation strategies - if you have trades that are in profit and you move your SL to BE, then worst case scenario is you came out even - best case, it doesn't stop you out and keeps running - reduce the stress
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  • Jul 2, 2012 9:40am
  • Verbal
    Joined Nov 2011 | 65 Posts | Status: Member
Anybody trading this pair? It seems another add-on point for short is coming up. The only doubt I have is that it's nearing the over-sold zone (RSI10 =24). Comments appreciated.
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  • Jul 2, 2012 11:23am
  • Verbal
    Joined Nov 2011 | 65 Posts | Status: Member
Based on Britpip's add-on H4 rules I should've entered earlier.
Quoting Verbal
Anybody trading this pair? It seems another add-on point for short is coming up. The only doubt I have is that it's nearing the over-sold zone (RSI10 =24). Comments appreciated.
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  • Jul 3, 2012 12:34am
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
Quoting Verbal
Based on Britpip's add-on H4 rules I should've entered earlier.
The earlier entry was valid - this pair has had add-on signals all the way down.

Add-on can be taken just off of fractal breaks but can also be taken on pauses / mini retraces. These can be seen better on the H4 once a trend is running.

Once the DAY RSI-10 gets into the 25/75 zones, manage your stop losses carefully.
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  • Jul 3, 2012 12:59am
  • Britpip7
    Joined Apr 2011 | 1,049 Posts | Status: "Never Give Up - Never Surrender"
Currently watching aud/jpy to see how this develops

Waiting for a break and close above the 200ema to confirm the move from last week.

This is one of the favourite MAs that are watched by all the institutions.

Currently TDI is not strong on direction - slightly diverging from PA, so possible indication that the 200EMA is a supply zone.
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