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Why didn't Mouteki Ea Work?

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  • First Post: Oct 19, 2006 3:52am
  • c1ro
    Joined Oct 2006 | 255 Posts | Status: Member
Why the mouteki didn't work for me??

The configuration is:
AlertsOn = true
MultiPositions = false
LotsPerTrade = 1.0

I think the configuration is not just that. Can anyone help me?

Thanks!!
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  • Oct 19, 2006 4:31am
  • parlenk
    Joined Mar 2006 | 657 Posts | Status: FxMoveDotCom
do you talking bout the ea or the indicator? since there is Lot per trade.could you attach the ea config? i would like to see it.
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  • Oct 19, 2006 4:47am
  • c1ro
    Joined Oct 2006 | 255 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting parlenk
do you talking bout the ea or the indicator? since there is Lot per trade.could you attach the ea config? i would like to see it.
the EA mouteki. my config is from #1

Thanks a lot!!
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  • Oct 19, 2006 7:39am
  • et_phonehome_2
    Joined May 2006 | 755 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting c1ro
the EA mouteki. my config is from #1

Thanks a lot!!
There are several versions of the Mouteki EA posted, which version are you referring to? I believe the latest version runs between a certain time.... EAs do not always work, when trading with EAs, you must use discretion along with other filters...
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  • Oct 19, 2006 11:10pm
  • spartan
    Joined Jul 2006 | 129 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting c1ro
Why the mouteki didn't work for me??

The configuration is:
AlertsOn = true
MultiPositions = false
LotsPerTrade = 1.0

I think the configuration is not just that. Can anyone help me?

Thanks!!
Do you mean the EA does not take any trade or it does take trades but does not make pips?

Have you ever used any EA before?

Either way, you may want to post your version of Mouteki EA so that we can help you better.
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  • Oct 19, 2006 11:25pm
  • nutmg12
    Joined Mar 2005 | 204 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting et_phonehome_2
There are several versions of the Mouteki EA posted, which version are you referring to? I believe the latest version runs between a certain time.... EAs do not always work, when trading with EAs, you must use discretion along with other filters...
How do you trade with discretion using an EA? Arent EA's mechanical?
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  • Oct 20, 2006 12:05am
  • pipscooper
    Joined Feb 2006 | 25 Posts | Status: scooper of pips
Quoting nutmg12
How do you trade with discretion using an EA? Arent EA's mechanical?
Yes I think that's the whole point of the EA concept - that it is mechanical - meaning that little gizmo buys and sells without any funny mentals attached. Discretion is a valid concept for experienced profitable traders. The reality is that new traders learn about discretionary trading and figure that it should work for them because they are destined to be the next Da Vinci, Michelangelo, or Rembrandt of the forex markets. Unfortunately discretion requires experience which includes a number of memories, correctly categorized for easy retrieval by the brain, and the correct responses to those memories learned as well, so that when the situation arrives, the brain is able to match up that memory and action with the current situation and provide an advantage that betters the trader's chance to make a profit. I haven't met a newbie yet who comes correctly pre-wired for trading.

Most new traders are so pathetically bad at picking trade direction and entry points that it might be worth trying the following experiment. The new trader should turn on an EA and watch it trade. When the new trader feels very strongly that the decision the EA made is correct, the new trader should immediately manually close out the position. When the new trader feels extremely strongly that the decision made by the EA is completely wrong, the new trader should manually double the position size. Try that for a few days and you'll start experiencing "head games" like crazy but might make a bit of cashola in the mean time.
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  • Oct 20, 2006 12:28am
  • ShoMeDaPips
    Joined Oct 2006 | 1 Post | Status: Member
whats an EA and where can i find more info about it
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  • Oct 20, 2006 1:19am
  • spartan
    Joined Jul 2006 | 129 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting ShoMeDaPips
whats an EA and where can i find more info about it
You'd probably find one in the EA Factory thread in the Forex Discussion Forum.
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  • Oct 20, 2006 1:23am
  • TheWicker
    Joined May 2006 | 202 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting ShoMeDaPips
whats an EA and where can i find more info about it
EA - Expert advisor. This is a robot trader written by a programer. Based on an algorhytm it automaticaly executes commands you or someone else have programed in it.

I like to stay away from EA's. Its a machine and I don't get it why so many thrust a machine more than themselves?
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  • Oct 20, 2006 7:48am
  • et_phonehome_2
    Joined May 2006 | 755 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting nutmg12
How do you trade with discretion using an EA? Arent EA's mechanical?
You can trade EAs mechanically or you you can just have it alert you without making a trade. I agree that if you are only testing then having it mechanically trade for you is fine, but would you do that on a live account? For a live account, I would want to make sure I am on the right side of the trend or analyze it further not unless the EA has proven itself to be very good in having more wins than losers.

There are four versions of the Mouteki EA posted in the EA Alerts forum, and each one has its pluses and minuses. I have only tested with two of them, and they are reliabley good. One thing I should point out, if you follow the Mouteki rules for entering a trade, this EA may not enter a trade, I am pretty sure the rules in the EA may be different due to filtering. But then, no system is perfect so its why I say use discretion....
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  • Oct 20, 2006 7:51am
  • et_phonehome_2
    Joined May 2006 | 755 Posts | Status: Member
The latest EA Mouteki EA can be found here:

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...&postcount=180
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  • Oct 23, 2006 1:21pm
  • smallblack102
    Joined Sep 2006 | 6 Posts | Status: Member
I also have the same problem. The Mouteki EA I am testing on a demo is the "Mouteki EA 0.4". I am trying to do a forward testing with cable. Last night (Oct 22) there was a clear breakout but the EA did not enter anything. All my settings are default. Do I need to change any setting?


Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks
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  • Last Post: Oct 23, 2006 1:41pm
  • et_phonehome_2
    Joined May 2006 | 755 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting smallblack102
I also have the same problem. The Mouteki EA I am testing on a demo is the "Mouteki EA 0.4". I am trying to do a forward testing with cable. Last night (Oct 22) there was a clear breakout but the EA did not enter anything. All my settings are default. Do I need to change any setting?


Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks
The EA has filtering built into it. If you want to trade the alerts as it is, you can only trade it manually. You may want to look at the first EA posted in the link above since I believe it was nothing fancy, do not recall....
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